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post #91 of 502
Sennheiser really needs to step up to the plate and address the members on this. Yes they have MOT members that lurk the forums. Moderators should give the Senn MOT members some leeway and allow them to post openly in this thread (IMHO). If they share common driver diaphragms and its the implementation that sets them apart... then say so.

Its widely believed the SR80 and SR60 share common drivers, yet there is no "fire-sale" of SR80s and unhappy SR80 users, because the SR80 is the preferred product, and does some things sonically the SR60 is incapable of.

There is no disputing the night/day sonic differences between the 580 and 650. The HD650 has a well deserved reputation as being the superior or in many cases preferred unit, and furthermore it does some things sonically that the HD580 does not.

As a side note.... At one point I had two different HD580s, one stock and the other modded with HD600 grilles and HD650 cables. The two were VERY different sounding, the modded unit had considerably more bass impact and deeper extension. Unfortunately I did not have an HD650 at the time to compare.

FWIW... my HD580 drivers are generic and dont say anything on them.

Keeping members in the dark on the authenticity and legitimacy of HD650 does not help, and only fuels further speculation.
post #92 of 502
My HD580s don't have any "HD580" printed on their drivers. This is for both a pair of old drivers that originally came with my headphones, and a pair of replacements I got a few months ago.

Personally, I think maybe these drivers that say HD580 on them are some stock number or something. Maybe later I'll post pics of my HD650 drivers with HD580 drivers.
post #93 of 502
there was that incident with refurb HD 600s with HD 650 drivers..
post #94 of 502
I do not believe their build & dampening could affect their sound as much.

When did the HD 580 stop production?

I shall email Amazon.
post #95 of 502
I doubt these are actually HD580 drivers. It sounds too much like coincidence. If it sounds good, like I got my money's worth, what do I care?
post #96 of 502
Quote:
Originally Posted by manaox2 View Post
I doubt these are actually HD580 drivers. It sounds too much like coincidence. If it sounds good, like I got my money's worth, what do I care?
Yeah, they sound awesome. Miles better than my 580s.


I emailed Amazon:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Amazon email
Hi,

I bought these a fortnight ago.


I was reading this thread on Head-fi.org and it brought to my attention.

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=255970



I opened them up and stamped on both my drivers/speakers are:

'hd 580 Makro'

The HD580s are well below the HD650s.


What is going on? Have I bought an erroneous pair?


Ask Sennheiser. I'd like replacements if they're wrong.

Chris
300 hours burn-in too.
post #97 of 502
My local Sennhesier contact has just begun his two weeks holiday So, i'll come back after.
post #98 of 502
Well, I'm a bit worried. I just checked my 650s (purchased less than a month ago from Headroom), and they say 580 on the inside.

I'd really appreciate some clarification on this issue... I'm enjoying these phones well enough, but I'd sure appreciate getting what I paid for!
post #99 of 502
This is something 'Gradoish'.

Anyone tried, can the driver of the 580s even go in the 650s...screw positioning. If I were Sennheiser I'd do something like this.
post #100 of 502
My HD580's just have some numbers on their drivers.
post #101 of 502
Is there anyway to check the sensitivity? Its supposedly higher on 650s.
post #102 of 502
I've always thought 650s and 580s share the same driver. IMO 650s and 580s are both darker than the 600s and more similar in sound.
post #103 of 502
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Originally Posted by zillac View Post
I've always thought 650s and 580s share the same driver. IMO 650s and 580s are both darker than the 600s and more similar in sound.
It is 100% confirmed that the 580's and 600's share the same driver.
post #104 of 502
I am getting curious now and want to take a look at my drivers. Can someone tell me how to remove the earpad?
post #105 of 502
This is getting interesting. So they can't be fakes with this many of them around..

They don't sound bad that's for sure but I've really got no grounds to make comments of them compared to other models, that's why I'm worried. I can't just trust my ears this time.
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