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"Hesitation Marks" - nine inch nails


Edited by DLeeWebb - 11/17/13 at 9:48am
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Alexi Murdoch - Towards the Sun

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Lorde - Pure Heroine
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Listening to Eminem's new MMLP2 album and it's sounding pretty good. smily_headphones1.gif
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Agreed
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Originally Posted by markm1 View Post

 

Point 3: On a short A-B comparison of a couple of songs from my Led Zeppelin 1990 Remaster 2 disc compilation and my Houses of the Holy Remaster  in -94-Mothership clearly sounds better....more open, spacious and clearer. My 90 remaster sound muddy by comparison...The remaster series I have came out with a 4 CD version as well and was remastered in 2000-I don't have that and haven't heard that version. So, I can't vouch how the 2007 version sounds compared to the 2,000. But, I wonder if it was simply re-released in 2,000 as I've read Jimmy Page state it's been 20 years since the Zeppelin catalog was remastered.


 

 

Agreed re Mothership. Love Led Zep but their abysmal quality on old recordings & even previously remastered ones made them almost completely unlistenable for me.

 

The Mothership is exciting SQ wise. On some songs it's better than some of the 2008 remasters, but the latter are generally similar. They brought Led Zep back into my playlist, even compared to some early remasters. With a smidge too much reverb/echo sometimes and still some ocasional awful unintended distorsion and parasites, the soundstage, clarity, instrument separation are audiophile level.

 

Very good stuff.


Edited by negura - 11/17/13 at 11:51am
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Agreed re Mothership. Love Led Zep but their abysmal quality on old recordings & even previously remastered ones made them almost completely unlistenable for me.

 

The Mothership is exciting SQ wise. On some songs it's better than some of the 2008 remasters, but the latter are generally similar. They brought Led Zep back into my playlist, even compared to the 2000s remasters. With a smidge too much reverb/echo sometimes and still some ocasional awful unintended distorsion and parasites, the soundstage, clarity, instrument separation are audiophile level.

 

Very good stuff.

I agree with you on the bad sounding records. I was afraid to mention it myself. There are a few albums that i just wish were recorded properly. The eagles always had great sounding records around the same time. its a pity the zeppelin ones were not up to scratch that way. 

 

Have you heard Aretha Franklin  "lady soul" its such a pity about that album - one of my favorites but it sounds pretty awful especially on T1 and HD800, not so bad on speakers. 

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I agree with you on the bad sounding records. I was afraid to mention it myself. There are a few albums that i just wish were recorded properly. The eagles always had great sounding records around the same time. its a pity the zeppelin ones were not up to scratch that way. 

 

Have you heard Aretha Franklin  "lady soul" its such a pity about that album - one of my favorites but it sounds pretty awful especially on T1 and HD800, not so bad on speakers. 

 

Agreed. With some of these it's not even dependant on headphones, unless you go very low I guess. I've had HD6x0s, T1s, Audezes, HD800s, now Stax, but with none of them I could digest Led Zep originals. They require a very unreleaving system to cope. As a rule when I see 1960s, 1970s, I am very cautious with my expectations regarding the recordings.

 

But there are exceptions too:

Pink Floyd obviously - 1973 Dark Side of The Moon

Leonard Cohen - 1974 - New Skin for the Old Ceremony

Steely Dan - 70s are generally very decent

Doors -1967- Strange Days

 

I may add more as I remember.


Edited by negura - 11/17/13 at 12:06pm
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Originally Posted by DLeeWebb View Post
 

Very interesting analysis...I have every collection, CD, and original vinyl that you mention in your post, but I have never really done any in-depth comparison. How would you rate "The Complete Studio Recordings" (10 CD Boxed Set) in terms of sound quality...? I don't listen to Zeppelin as much as I used to, but I go to "The Complete Studio Recordings" when I do...edit - OK, this boxed set is what you refer to as the '94 remasters, I follow you now...sorry.

 

 

 

Cheers-I had sort of shelved Zeppelin myself. But, this year-has been the year I have gotten my "audiobug". So, I've put something of a legit stereo and HP set up together while investing in Sonos to stream my collection digitally and wirelessly to other rooms.

 

I'm something of an aging metalhead/rock guy, but thrash and deathmetal don't mix well w/ my 14 year old daughter and wife-to say the least :veryevil:

 

So-I have gone through a rock renaissance of sorts putting together a library of classic rock, alternative rock, indie, jazz, etc. for "house music". I've found that while I'm pretty burned out on a lot of the overplayed classic rock I grew up with (Eagles, CCR, etc.) that I'm really enjoying blues, folk, prog and a lot of other great stuff.

 

In the process- I decided to focus on some of my favorite bands that I think represent good SQ and update their music-for me that's been-The Beatles, The Who, Pink Floyd, King Crimson, Black Sabbath, The Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, Radiohead, U2, Sting, Tom Waits....the list seems to keep growing...

 

@ and in the last few weeks-Led Zeppelin...which has reminded how great they are. Celebration Day-the live reunion-started me on this groove. For anyone even marginally interested in Led Zep, I encourage their live recordings.

 

I haven't heard the entire box set you have-but my two disc remasters are from '90. The problem for the new zeppelin shopper-is that the 94 series has been trumped by the 2007 2 CD disc I referenced-Mothership-but it's a mere two CD selection vs 4 CDs or in your case their entire catalog.

 

I find A-B testing very subjective. It gets a little tricky for Zeppelin. As there is the 90, 94 and 2007 versions-and they aren't all clearly labeled.

 

 

I'm sure-that your 94 remasters are better than my 90's remasters which-I'm sorry-but I have to say-suck in terms of SQ. Like my old 80's Beatles CD's....when that was my only reference point sounded OK-but then when played with the new remaster-I could really hear what I was missing. Like the fog clearing.

 

That said, I recently purchased Houses of the Holy, and Physical Graffiti. The package said remastered, but I can't find a year. The jewel case simply states-digitally remastered from the original master tapes by Jimmy Page and George Marion-unlike the recent Apple Beatles remasters that proudly announce the date.

 

The wording is slightly different on each jewel case.

 

 

This is what I believe I have:

 

-1990 remaster double disc that I've just replaced with Mothership-that is certain

-90 or '94 Houses of the Holy-I'm suspecting '90 purchased straight from a rack at Best Buys

-94 version of Physical Graffiti-but I don't know that from a fact.

 

My highly subjective conclusions:

 

-the 2007 Mothership release is a clear step up from the 90 remaster particularly songs from their first two albums...Daze and Confused, Ramble On, Good Times, Bad Times and the like

-The 2007 is less of an improvement on what I believe is a '94 remaster of Physical Graffiti.

-Incidentally- the difference in SQ was less noticeable on my Physical Graffit CD which is why I'm suspecting-but not sure-that my Houses of the Holy is a '90 release and my Physical Graffiti is '94-but they may both be from-94.

 

Note to Jimmy Page-Hey Mr. Page-you are a rock god and all-but hey, hey momma, please notate the freaking dates!

 

Long story short-I believe you would find less of a difference w/ your '94 collection than my two disc remaster from 90.

 

Also, on further listening, some of it may be a loudness/dynamic range factor.

 

Finally, the difference was not nearly as dramatic as when I heard a late 80's version of the Beatles White album and contrasted with a new purchase of the 2009 White Album. In that case, it was obvious on one listen. Like-wow!

 

With  the exception of the -90 remasered Zeppelin which as stated-blows-I had to listen to my new copies of Physical Graffiti and Houses of the Holy several times to hear the difference...it's more subtle than the Beatles-but I can hear the difference....kind of like the idea of having to listen to HP for a few hours before your ears get adjusted.

 

I do believe that for someone like me with some very old Zeppelin, Mothership is significantly better.

 

The next issue will be what Mr. Page's upcoming remastered box sets w/ alternate takes and so on will sound like....they were announced last year...


Edited by markm1 - 11/17/13 at 12:17pm
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Winter Mountain

 

These guys are great, their debut album has some great tracks.

 

 

Joe Francis from Cornwall (left) and Martin Smyth from Malin: Winter Mountain.

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Roar is one of the best independent bands to ever come out of Phoenix, but so far all of their (two) albums have been really short. The longest one, "I Can't Handle Change", is only six tracks long, meaning that their entire catalog at this point consists of ten songs. It's too bad, too, because they're a truly fantastic band. The music itself is like synthpop without the synth (if that makes any sense), but the lyrics are dark and introspective.

 

There's nothing like bobbing your head to a fast-tempo, upbeat tune juxtaposed with the lyrics "you're living proof that it pays to be hard on those around you".

 

I'm Not Here To Make Friends by Roar

 

 

I Can't Handle Change by Roar

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I hope Jimmy Page gets a couple of second opinions on the remastering. With the inevitable hearing loss he must have, I dont think hes the best choice for the job anymore.
Edited by palmfish - 11/17/13 at 12:30pm
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I hope Jimmy Page gets a couple of second opinions on the remastering. With his inevitable hearing loss, I dont think hes the best choice for the job anymore.

Ha-ha! I think I have some ear damage from just listening to them all these years.....I just don't want to feel compelled to buy any more Zeppelin for a while!

 

So let's see...

 

bought this year:

 

-Houses of Holy-ramastered god knows when

-Physical  Graffiti -ramastered god knows when

-Celebration Day

-Mothership

 

Now, what? You're remastering you're entire catalogue.  What!?

 

Speaking of new old music...I'm really enjoying this re- release:

 

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Cool! I havent heard The Cult since their album "Electric," which is now a classic rock album I suppose.

I have Mothership and agree it sounds fantastic. I also have TSRTS on DVD and it sounds as bad as ever - even worse than the original albums...lol. I have their 2003 DVD set with concert footage from Royal Albert Hall, Madison Square Garden, and Knebworth. This set is superb - it was the Zeppelin I had ever heard until I got Celebration Day on BluRay.
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I hope Jimmy Page gets a couple of second opinions on the remastering.

Well, you could say that about the listeners too based on some of the comments above, especially concerning the extremely squashed 2007 Mothership :)

 

I would hope he goes against the trend and gives them back some of the dynamics they had in the beginning. They are likely based on the iTunes remasters.

 

For anyone interested, there are some high rez transfers around the web of the first 5 records, transferred from commercial analog tape reels, and sounding really good. Look for something like below ...

 

 

 


Edited by Davey - 11/17/13 at 12:52pm
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