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"April" - Sun Kil Moon

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I never understood how people can like Vocaloid...I find the voice synthesiser really annoying to listen to. >.>

 

Overall composition of the songs is good, but the voice just kills it for me.


I can understand that. I had the same mindset, but changed after finding some tunes that I really liked.  Mind you I don't love every Vocaloid song out there, but Vocaloid is more than what appears to the eye.  Vocaloid music is produced by thousands of producers all around the world. If you look at Hatsune Miku, for example; she is the embodiment of music producers all around the world who take part in her ever-existing (dare I say) legend. I personally find this as a one of the reasons why I love and support Vocaloid music.

 

My thoughts. (Click to show)

 

I personally find livetune's combination of voice tuning for Miku and use of Auto-Tune difficult to listen to (the name livetune comes from Ableton Live and Auto-Tune). But that's just me; a lot of people enjoy livetune. All I'm saying is that in different hands Vocaloids can sound very different so I highly recommend against forming opinions without hearing a variety of songs from different producers. Vocaloid might not be for everyone, but I'd like to think that that's all about getting used to it and giving it a chance. I'd have to agree with Destroysall on trying to find songs and artists that you like. Miku alone has over 100,000 songs that have been uploaded on video sharing sites, ranging from a cappella to experimental metal and from vocal trance to classical pieces that have been composed for her and performed in concert halls. And all this within a period of just under six years. Like Destroysall said, probably the most amazing thing about the Vocaloid phenomenon isn't the technology itself, but the amazing community that has been born around it. There are already thousands of producers, many of them either incredibly talented or very promising rising artists. In addition to the music that is being produced, those with visual talent are making illustrations, comics, music videos or even movies based around Vocaloid – many of them for free of charge. This applies to musicians as well; a lot of composers are providing free downloads for their music, perfectly content with receiving comments from people who enjoy what they create.

 

Due to her popularity Hatsune Miku has ended up being the representative for all Vocaloids. What people who don't understand the Vocaloid "movement" often fail to see is that she is much more than a virtual singer: she is a symbol. She is an embodiment of creativity and something anyone can use to express themselves through. She had no official personality and her voice is so versatile with all of the tuning options available that everyone if free to have their own personal version of Miku. Some might think that the Vocaloid phenomenon is just a trend that will run its course and then slip into oblivion but I'd like to believe that Vocaloids are here to stay, to become part of our musical language. I see no reason why Vocaloid wouldn't keep gaining popularity like it has been so far, with the biggest obstacle for some people in the West being the language barrier.

 

Some people are also put off by the synthetic undertones present in many Vocaloid songs, but in the right hands Vocaloids can actually sound surprisingly lifelike. It just require a lot of time, effort and experience. Still many artists don't even attempt to achieve natural sounding vocals in their work and instead embrace the synthetic nature of Vocaloid by emphasizing the unnaturalness in their voice. I don't personally even see why one would want to have as natural Vocaloid vocals as possible unless the singer you had in mind for a song happens to be a Vocaloid, but the song calls for a human-like performance. Honestly programming the Vocaloid parts for one song takes so much effort that hiring a professional singer would likely be much more convenient at least from a time perspective. What Vocaloid however offer for artists is the possibility to fine-tune the vocals down to smallest detail with 100% repeatability. This of course means there is also a lack of variety that a human singer brings to every take. Then again the Vocaloid software was never intended to replace human singers, just to serve as an alternative for them, and a lot of producers have used them for singing duets with flesh and blood singers and so on.

 

To help convey my personal relationship with Vocaloid, I'm going to quote a post from a Vocaloid thread here on Head-Fi.

 

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I always find it odd that Vocaloid tracks have warranted the most emotional responses I've ever had to music...I actually avoid listening to some of them in public because of this...

 

This pretty much sums up my experience with Vocaloid, expect I don't avoid listening to anything in public because I'm perfectly fine with crying in public if a song moves me. I don't know what it is about Vocaloids but they have managed to move me on much deeper levels than pretty much any human singer I know. There simply seem to be no boundaries and I find it easy to tap into the emotions conveyed in the song. Before discovering Vocaloid slightly over a year ago thanks to Head-Fi I was very unhappy about the fact that the vast majority of music being produced today is pretty much complete garbage. Being introduced to Vocaloid renewed my hope and I began to truly believe Miku with her other Vocaloid friends is here to save music. With the release of Miku's English version this summer she is going to become known to much wider audiences here in the West and I'm excited to see if we will witness a similar community being born as in the East. At the same time I'm slightly afraid of popular artists using her to make really bad music and thus ruining her image for those who are being introduced to her for the first time through this kind of music made in bad taste. Then again I'd like to believe that people will realize that just like any musical instrument, a Vocaloid can be used to both create something with value and something that has none.

 

I could go on, but I think that's enough from me. Vocaloid is one of the best things that has happened in my life so I always have a lot to say on the matter. Well, I typically have a lot to say on a lot of things, but that's neither here or there.

 


 

Currently listening to:

 

 

Analogue Productions hybrid SACD mastered by Kevin Gray.

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 Genesis 

 
 [ 1986 ]
 

 

 

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Had a lovely morning while enjoying breakfast and some coffee.  The rain came in early and all together was given a soundtrack with the likes of both Miles Davis and John Coltrane. :-)

 

700

 

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@ Destroyalls... what a morning.

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I have just rediscovered this:

 

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Listening on my Grados RS2i, I can't believe how wonderful her voice sounds.

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@ Destroyalls... what a morning.

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Oh yes, beerchug.gif

Indeed it was. It helped start my day wonderfully. :-)

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I have just rediscovered this:

 

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Listening on my Grados RS2i, I can't believe how wonderful her voice sounds.

 

Post is one of my favorite all-time albums. smile.gif

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sublime..

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Live Phish webcast from Chicago! Just ripping!
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Had a lovely morning while enjoying breakfast and some coffee.  The rain came in early and all together was given a soundtrack with the likes of both Miles Davis and John Coltrane. :-)

 

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I'm curious, has anyone compared the SACD remaster of Kind Of Blue with original vinyl?

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Hutnicks,

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I'm curious, has anyone compared the SACD remaster of Kind Of Blue with original vinyl?


I'm not so sure myself on the SACD remaster as I've yet to hear it myself.  Kind of Blue on vinyl sounds very enriching and full in the dynamic sense.  My copy is the Legacy 2-disc edition that is perhaps the best CD release of the album.

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I'm curious, has anyone compared the SACD remaster of Kind Of Blue with original vinyl?

 

I haven't done that, but on the '97 remaster CD (Columbia CK 64935) that looks like the image Destroysall posted, there are liner notes about how the original album and all subsequent reissues up to the gold Mastersound edition all contained recordings that were at a slightly wrong speed. They claim that this was never corrected until around the late '90s. I don't know if the same speed correction is present on the SACDs, but it is a difference between newer CDs and old LPs. 

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I haven't done that, but on the '97 remaster CD (Columbia CK 64935) that looks like the image Destroysall posted, there are liner notes about how the original album and all subsequent reissues up to the gold Mastersound edition all contained recordings that were at a slightly wrong speed. They claim that this was never corrected until around the late '90s. I don't know if the same speed correction is present on the SACDs, but it is a difference between newer CDs and old LPs. 


I seem to recall reading that a long time ago.

 

Why I am curious is that I am hearing an abnormal amount of hiss on the SACD rip I am listening to. I do not recall that being so prominent on the CD (I'll have to dig that back out and check) but am quite curious to hear if it is present on vinyl .

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