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post #31 of 52
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Originally Posted by Dexdexter View Post
The Saturn's great, but I'd also be tempted to consider the new PrimaLuna ProLogue Eight:



I currently have the Ah! Njoe Tjoeb CD 4000 Reference, which is from the same company behind PrimaLuna. I've been loving it for more than three years now, but the ProLogue Eight suddenly has me itching to upgrade!

Have you heard the PimaLuna ProLogue Eight CDP?
post #32 of 52
The best would be the one you take home and listen to every day!
post #33 of 52
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post #34 of 52
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Originally Posted by tourmaline View Post
The best would be the one you take home and listen to every day!
Well, that'd be the Marantz SA11-S1 for me.



I think it's around the USD$3,000 mark... maybe.

Edit: My mistake - $3,500 new in the US.
post #35 of 52
A $3000 limit is an interesting level. Lots of research is required for sure and I would suggest thinking about CPD transports a bit more. A Esoteric OEM VDRS-NEO transport, for instance, is going to cost $3000 without any electronics whatsoever. One needs an upgrading strategy of sorts.

I look at CDP in two tiers and this fact guides my upgrading philosophy. Assuming that a high-end transport costs roughly $3Gs, I know that any CPD in this price range is probably not using the best possible transport. I am looking in the near future for a $2000 dollar CDP with great electronics but a basic transport. Then in the furture I can jump far beyond the $3000 neighbourhood to the realm of custom transports.

So a Marantz SA11 to a SA7 is not a smart upgrade.
But a SA8001 to a SA7 is.

I can imagine many reasons someone would want to pick up a SA11. Some will look at my strategy as insanity and want to buy one player to get off the upgrading curse. And that's fine! More power to you! I'm just happy you read my post.
post #36 of 52
Maybe look at an Esoteric SA-10 ($3,500)

http://www.musicdirect.com/product/73485
post #37 of 52
We all have our budgets. I'm constantly tempted to buy something like the Oppo, NAD C542, or Sony SCD-CE595 (approx. $200-$500) just to have a home source, but I know I won't be truly satisfied until I have something that is a gigantic leap above my PCDP. So far, the Marantz SA8001, Arcam FMJ CD36, NAD M5, Cambridge Audio Azur 840C, Sony SCD-XA9000ES, Consonance CD-120 and Rega Saturn have caught my eye in the mid-fi price range of less than $3000.

Bel Canto's PL-2 and Linn's Akurate players are also of interest, but they haven't been widely reviewed yet - I suspect they'll be more than $3000.
post #38 of 52
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Originally Posted by gz76 View Post
Well, that'd be the Marantz SA11-S1 for me.

I think it's around the USD$3,000 mark... maybe.

Edit: My mistake - $3,500 new in the US.
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Originally Posted by vcoheda View Post
Maybe look at an Esoteric SA-10 ($3,500)
$3500? That's also in Accuphase DP-500 territory.

No SACD, but I wonder how the SA11-S1 and SA-10 playing Red Book would compare vs. the DP-500.
post #39 of 52
You might want to read through this thread about the SA11-S2.Just some food for thought.Gary.
http://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/vt.mpl?f=hirez&m=238183
post #40 of 52
Ug.. I'd throw myself off a cliff before I could decide between an Esoteric or Accuphase.
post #41 of 52
I'm immediatley go with the Accuphase, without even blinking an eye.

....and bypass the cliff
post #42 of 52
I’ve been thru a digital madness this summer. I just sold off an Ayre C-xe and a Wadia 581i both used with balanced Wireworld Gold Equlipce interconnects into a Rudistor RPX-100 w/ Bal wired AKG 701s. Both players were good but the C-5xe was more refined, however the players both under whelmed me especially in light of their costs $6000 and $9000. I feel that for these dollars the compromises should be small and music should be compelling and representative of the money invested. For me they really didn’t deliver on both counts even when factoring in audio’s diminishing return.

I’ve had some well regarded digital fronts ends in my system and I've ended up with a Cambridge 840 used as a player or as a transport to drive a new Benchmark DAC1. The Cambridge by alone is a home run with its resolution and relaxed presentation, similar to the Meridian G08 but with better drive, extension, and greater impact to the music. The 840 is also an excellent transport and connected via a Digital Precision dig cable to the current DAC 1 USB the sound was VERY close to the C-5xe. This combo= $2800 at retail. I've sent the DAC 1 off to Chris at the Parts Connects for multiple mods and I expect to have a world beater digital front end for under $3500 at retail with mods and digital cable.
post #43 of 52
Wish I had your cash flow.
post #44 of 52
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Originally Posted by Vangelis View Post
I’ve had some well regarded digital fronts ends in my system and I've ended up with a Cambridge 840 used as a player or as a transport to drive a new Benchmark DAC1. The Cambridge by alone is a home run with its resolution and relaxed presentation, similar to the Meridian G08 but with better drive, extension, and greater impact to the music. The 840 is also an excellent transport and connected via a Digital Precision dig cable to the current DAC 1 USB the sound was VERY close to the C-5xe. This combo= $2800 at retail. I've sent the DAC 1 off to Chris at the Parts Connects for multiple mods and I expect to have a world beater digital front end for under $3500 at retail with mods and digital cable.
let me get this straight. you are saying that the 840C alone is better than the G08 and that the 840C + DAC1 (unmodded) is even better than the 840C alone. So the 840C + DAC1 is far better than, in your opinion, the G08, which means that the 840C + the modded DAC1 should, by your estimation, crush the G08 in terms of overall performance. suffice to say, i am a bit skeptical of all this.
post #45 of 52
Crush is a relative term. Differences between audio components are audible, however qualifying these changes or improvement depends completely how much value you place on subtlety. I’ve owned two Meridian G08 players since its introduction. I was repeatedly drawn to the GO8’s “easy on the ears” presentation, but the player’s ease comes at a cost of ultimate transparency and dynamics. It’s a great player with many virtues and still holding its own in spite of the design now approaching five years. Clearly the GO8 is not the last word in dynamic contrasts but its super musical and never ever borders near listening fatigue.

Yup, to these old ears the 840 is more transparent than the GO8. The 840 with a strong power cord sounds similar to the Cary 306 SACD but not quite as palpable or 3D, but its close, not bad considering the Cary is $7000 and the Cambridge is $1500. Over the last few years current DAC 1s have incorporated many improvements and better parts such as new chips etc. The Ayre doesn’t out performance the DAC 1, GO8, Cary 306 SACD or even the 840 in every respect. Digital is so frustrating. All players and DACs have their own strengths and weaknesses. It’s safe to say that it’s the overall musical gestalt of a player that carries the day.


Remember all digital products are very susceptible to power line grunge. No digital front end can revile its true potential with out first being “cabled up” with compatible power cords, digital cables, AC line conditioners and set on the proper footings.
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