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post #946 of 2626
9/8/07 at 1:22pm
Apologies in advance for my ignorance here, but would there be a significant difference between a D-EJ2000 --> optical cable --> D1 compared to a D-EJ2000 --> mini-mini --> SuperMacro.

My question is more about whether or not the line/optcial out is a true optical out, not about the difference between a D1 and a SuperMacro (and I understand there could be).

Thanks.
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post #947 of 2626
9/8/07 at 1:51pm
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Originally Posted by kiwirugby View Post
Apologies in advance for my ignorance here, but would there be a significant difference between a D-EJ2000 --> optical cable --> D1 compared to a D-EJ2000 --> mini-mini --> SuperMacro.

My question is more about whether or not the line/optcial out is a true optical out, not about the difference between a D1 and a SuperMacro (and I understand there could be).

Thanks.
Yes, the optical out of the D-EJ2000 is a true optical out, bypassing its on-board DAC.

I can hear a rather substantial improvement when listening to the D-EJ2000 amplified by my desktop Heed CanAmp through the DAC of the D1 as opposed to straight line out of the CD player. Bass is fuller, exhibiting greater authority while the mids gain additional body and the treble begins to sparkle. Soundstage improves as well and I get an overall better sense of coherence and realism.

And the same holds true when listening to my MacBook through either optical out or USB. Soon, I'll get around to testing the D1's coaxial input against my Njoe Tjoeb CD player in my loudspeaker rig. This iBasso is just so versatile. For its small size and relatively modest price, I think the DAC section alone on the D1 is quite impressive!
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post #948 of 2626
9/8/07 at 1:52pm
I have not tried the D-EJ2000 with the D1 (just sold mine) but I use a D-EN920 with it and the sq goes up quite a lot going optical vs. line-out. I discorvered this during the summer when I tried the pcdp optical with dennyL's Berensford dac. I have been using the pcdp line-out to the Xin Reference up til getting the D1. With > 200 hours on the D1 I don't think the amp part is quite up to the Reference but that could change with the arrival of my hiflight chip set (at least in Ron's oppinion it is close) and getting away with just one box instead of two will be a bonus. The Reference has the replaced my SuperMini in my portable iMod rig.
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post #949 of 2626
9/8/07 at 2:42pm
Who is Ron? (his username) and what Opamps would be the less noisy to use with my E500? Are the Opa2111 too powerfull for beign dead quiet? Let me know if you have a little idea cause i might buy the kit from Ron at the same time i buy my D1.
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post #950 of 2626
9/8/07 at 3:17pm
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Originally Posted by Dexdexter View Post
Yes, the optical out of the D-EJ2000 is a true optical out, bypassing its on-board DAC.

I can hear a rather substantial improvement when listening to the D-EJ2000 amplified by my desktop Heed CanAmp through the DAC of the D1 as opposed to straight line out of the CD player. Bass is fuller, exhibiting greater authority while the mids gain additional body and the treble begins to sparkle. Soundstage improves as well and I get an overall better sense of coherence and realism.

And the same holds true when listening to my MacBook through either optical out or USB. Soon, I'll get around to testing the D1's coaxial input against my Njoe Tjoeb CD player in my loudspeaker rig. This iBasso is just so versatile. For its small size and relatively modest price, I think the DAC section alone on the D1 is quite impressive!
Thanks, Dex. Really helpful as usual, and so gracious to an ignoramus!

I am not quite sure of the configuration your talking about above, so please bear with me. Is your set up like this:

D-EJ2000 --> D1 --> Heed CanAmp?

Or are the latter two reversed:

D-EJ2000 --> Heed CanAmp --> D1?

If the latter, the Heed CanAmp receives an optical signal?

Sorry to be such a pest!
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post #951 of 2626
9/8/07 at 3:19pm
Since heed have no digital inputs it is certainly the D1 then the Heed, no need to be sorry, we are all here to learn hehe
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post #952 of 2626
9/8/07 at 3:30pm
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Since heed have no digital inputs it is certainly the D1 then the Heed, no need to be sorry, we are all here to learn hehe
Merci! Vous etes tres gentile!
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post #953 of 2626
9/8/07 at 3:32pm
Gentil since i am a guy hehe
Thank you, my pleasure really.
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post #954 of 2626
9/8/07 at 3:33pm
So the D1 amp portion is a solid "portable" in the stock config?
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post #955 of 2626
9/8/07 at 3:34pm
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Originally Posted by kiwirugby View Post
I am not quite sure of the configuration your talking about above, so please bear with me. Is your set up like this:

D-EJ2000 --> D1 --> Heed CanAmp?
Indeed I was speaking about D-EJ2000 --> D1 --> Heed CanAmp, just as an illustration of the effectiveness of the D1's DAC capabilities.

But most of the time these days, the CanAmp resides happily with my larger components (CDP, DVD, turntable, home cinema, etc.) in my living room loudspeaker system.

Since the D1's amplifier is no slouch and most satisfying in its own way, my desktop set-up is now generally MacBook or D-EJ2000 --> D1.

But, of course, I'll also get around to directly comparing the D1 to the CanAmp (strictly as amplifiers) in both environments.
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post #956 of 2626
9/8/07 at 3:37pm
If the stock D1 can sound better than the canamp i am buying one right now and that's for sure!!! But this shouldn't be the case hehe. So someone can tell me who is Ron? :P
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post #957 of 2626
9/8/07 at 3:38pm
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Originally Posted by Dexdexter View Post
Indeed I was speaking about D-EJ2000 --> D1 --> Heed CanAmp, just as an illustration of the effectiveness of the D1's DAC capabilities.

But most of the time these days, the CanAmp resides happily with my larger components (CDP, DVD, turntable, home cinema, etc.) in my living room loudspeaker system.

Since the D1's amplifier is no slouch and most satisfying in its own way, my desktop set-up is now generally MacBook or D-EJ2000 --> D1.

But, of course, I'll also get around to directly comparing the D1 to the CanAmp (strictly as amplifiers) in both environments.
Thanks, Dex. Brilliant!

You have a great setup there.

I fear I am ready to pull the trigger on the D1. My wallet just ran out of the house!

I guess I will have to try the D1 with and without the SuperMacro. Oh, how I suffer!

You have been so helpful......and patient! Many thanks.
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post #958 of 2626
9/8/07 at 3:39pm
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Gentil since i am a guy hehe
Thank you, my pleasure really.
Je m'excuse!
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post #959 of 2626
9/8/07 at 3:44pm
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Originally Posted by kiwirugby View Post
Je m'excuse!


Hey i hope you are gonna do a SuperMacro / D1 review when youll get you D1. I am gonna get a Xin Reference somewhere in 2007 (i wish) so the 2 way review could be really usefull. Hope we will love our D1 hehe
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post #960 of 2626
9/8/07 at 5:16pm
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If the stock D1 can sound better than the canamp i am buying one right now and that's for sure!!! But this shouldn't be the case hehe. So someone can tell me who is Ron? :P
Ron is HiFlight.

I find the Xin Reference a little more open and free flowing compared to the D1 but the D1 is excellent in its own right. I have stated this before, I find that that the D1 is not like a portable but has the sound of a larger more robust home amp.
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