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post #1231 of 2626
Thread Starter 
Ron you are very correct and some traces lift right off on even quality boards and that can be such a pain but the pcb has taken a lot of heat with no ill consequences, much to my relief but who wants to lift a trace and then have to use a small piece of wire, etc. . so drilling out would be a good option.

Oh the sound is improving. My HD650's sound much better being more open and cleaner than before. They are really driven well but even the stock D1 drives them well but the sound now cascades down and around when playing Dire Straits (the bass is very solid and attack is very fast). Max volume with the 650's is around 1 oclock. The PROline 750's around 11 oclock.
post #1232 of 2626
I have found another opamp that sounds superb in the D1. It is the ADA4841-2 by Analog. This opamp is ultra low-noise, with great imaging and soundstage. Bass is deep and accurate while tonal balance is excellent throughout the entire audible range.

I like it well enough that I ordered a supply of them to mount on adapters.

The 3 opamps that I think do the D1 most justice are the OPA2111, AD8066 and the ADA4841-2. I think any of these will please the most critical ear.
post #1233 of 2626
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Originally Posted by HiFlight View Post
The 3 opamps that I think do the D1 most justice are the OPA2111, AD8066 and the ADA4841-2. I think any of these will please the most critical ear.
Can you list the differences and the strength's and weaknesses of the three?
post #1234 of 2626
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Can you list the differences and the strength's and weaknesses of the three?
And also which of the two buffers (LM4562 or AD8397) work best with these 3?
post #1235 of 2626
OPA2111: Very wide and expansive soundstage, very dimensional.
AD8066: Strong bass, good mids, good soundstage depth.
ADA4841-2: Well balanced throughout the spectrum, sweet highs.

They all work very well with both buffers, just a matter of individual taste. The differences are relatively small, with subtle tonal and soundstage variations. The 8397 is slightly more assertive, the 4562 somewhat more intimate.

These should not be considered as the only opamps that sound good in the D1. They are simply my personal ranking. There are many others I have tried that also sound very good.

For those interested in experimenting with different opamps other than those listed above, I would encourage ordering a modest assortment of opamps directly from a distributor and determining ones own individual preferences.

It is very difficult to try to express verbally the subtle differences in SQ between several different opamps. What I hear and describe may be totally different than what someone else perceives.

I can positively state that the improvements in both the DAC and amp sections of the D1 after modifications from stock are very apparent, even to the casual listener; furthermore, these improvements are apparent regardless of which phones I am using.

I should point out that as one improves the sonic quality and accuracy of any amp, it becomes less tolerant of poor source material or components!
post #1236 of 2626
Thread Starter 
With regards to the 4562 and AD8397 I came to the same conclusion and I enjoy both of them.

Since modifying the D1 with Black Gates, and the settling/forming of these caps (I used some caps that had already been in a circuit so the forming of these Black Gates thankfully had already pretty much been done) the amp has taken on a very high end musical sound that I can not believe. I am glad that it is as big as it is so that I have room for the Black Gates and that there is room to change opamps and that it has a design that appears to be very good or the sound would not be at the level it is no matter what I do.

Edit: the D1 has taken on a nice 3D presentation with very good spatial information and transparency.
post #1237 of 2626
So would this work then as 100% plug and play replacements? Anything I'm missing here?

1 x OPA2111 - Opamp for Amp.
$12.83 @ Digi-Key. Not in stock, but min. order only 1.
$12.86 @ Newark, in stock.

1 x AD8656 - Opamp for DAC (looks like no DIP version available?)

2 x LM4562 - Buffer
$5.38 ea. @ Digi-Key, in stock.
$5.99 ea. @ Newark but none in stock.

Also, how easy is "plug and play" in this case? Can I just use my fingers? Or some tweazers or a small wire cutting tool?
post #1238 of 2626
Yeah the only thing that would not be plug and play would the be AD8656. Which requires an adapter and could use a socket to act as a spacer since its kind of tight around the caps in the DAC.
post #1239 of 2626
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Originally Posted by tracyrick View Post
So would this work then as 100% plug and play replacements? Anything I'm missing here?

1 x OPA2111 - Opamp for Amp
1 x AD8656 - Opamp for DAC (looks like no DIP version available?)
2 x LM4562 - Buffer

Also, how easy is "plug and play" in this case? Can I just use my fingers? Or some tweazers or a small wire cutting tool?
A U shaped DIP puller from old computer memory chips/nvram, etc works best. A small flat bladed screwdriver works well too (those cheap $1.00 ones in PC repair kits long flat blade, plastic cylinder for handle, short phillips head on the other end). Just try to work all pins out of the socket at the same rate--don't angle the DIP up to free the left pins then work out the right pins. Try keeping the DIP parallel to the PCB as best you can.
post #1240 of 2626
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If you are in the US and near a Radio Shack just go down buy a coupld of cheap sockets for the opamps and buy any inexpensive dip opamp and practice with it. I use needle nose pliers and take my time so as to bend the pins very much.

Edit: Correction for those who complained: I use needle nose pliers and take my time so as to bend, I mean not bend the pins very much. :^)
post #1241 of 2626
I'm just wondering, but what makes a opamp more expensive than another. For example, why is the OPA2111 so expensive as compared to say the OP2134?
post #1242 of 2626
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Originally Posted by jamato8 View Post
...I use needle nose pliers and take my time so as to bend the pins very much.
Why would you want to bend the pins a lot? If you want to bend the pins, you don't need pliers to screw those up!






PS: we know what you "meant" to say, I think
post #1243 of 2626
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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post
Why would you want to bend the pins a lot? If you want to bend the pins, you don't need pliers to screw those up!






PS: we know what you "meant" to say, I think
Ha, I caught that too.
post #1244 of 2626
I am currently running the OPA2111 in the LR. I have some LM4562 would they sound much better then stock buffers? Also do they produce more output then stock or less?
post #1245 of 2626
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Originally Posted by zer010gic View Post
would they sound much better then stock buffers?
Only YOUR ears can tell you what sounds best. If we all like the same thing there would be only one headphone to rule them all...

My advice: you all ready have it, so put it in and experiment to see what sounds best to YOUR ears.
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