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post #16 of 60


What? huh?

OOOH - sorry.....it's all good, jude, don't worry.

But it'll be better if you...um....give me your rig

Then we can have VERY animated discussions about cables...

I really should NEVER come into the cables forum, it is quite bad for me, I'm sure...
post #17 of 60
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by KR...
The MIT website has many white papers available.

Here's the link to all of them....
KR, I just noticed this post. Thanks for the links. I'll definitely check them out.

Quote:
Originally posted by DarkAngel
Jude
Where do you get your cables? Are you aware of services offered by Cable Co?
DarkAngel, the Acoustic Zens are coming straight from Acoustic Zen. My Taras are the first pieces of used audio gear I ever bought. And the rest I've purchased locally or direct from the manufacturers.
post #18 of 60
You really should check Audiogon for used cables, biggest selection anywhere. You can buy those AZ cables for @30% discount if you watch there regularly for a couple weeks, as they do appear there from time to time. Many cables at 50% or more discount.

If you want to compare several cables, Cable Co is the place to go. They have huge selection, charge 5-10% of cost to listen to which can be applied to any purchase there, so if you eventually
buy something there service is free. Also sell many accessories,
racks etc. Provide nice discount to regular customers (ask for one)

http://gonmain.iserver.net/cgi-bin/fs.pl?cablintr

http://www.fatwyre.com/products.html

BTW it will be hard to remove those AZ cables from your system once you hear them, he,he,he

Also check out this special Cable Co is having on audiophile grade wall outlets:
post #19 of 60
I have to agree with Dark Angel about buying cables off of Audiogon. I bought both my pairs of truthlinks there and the total cost was less than buying one pair off of the harmonic tech site. Granted you lose the auditioning ability, but I felt I could easily sell them to someone else for what I paid if I didn't like them. I will probably spring for a set of matrix references after the holidays to compare with the truthlinks. Everyone says that the matrixs will kick the truthlinks butt. However, I am a born sceptic so I have to hear it for myself. I may take Dark Angels suggestion and use the cable co. for an audition. Thanks Dark Angel I had forgotten all about them
post #20 of 60
Here is add posted 10/7 at Audiogon for used AZ interconnects

http://gonmain.iserver.net/cgi-bin/c...877&class&3&4&

Silver Ref $525 1 meter RCA ($900 retail)
Matrix $350 1 meter RCA ($500 retail)

Dam, buy these now before thay are gone Jude!
post #21 of 60
Thread Starter 
DarkAngel,

Thanks for the tip. If I find the interconnects of a good fit and improvement in my rig, I'll likely buy these new ones direct from Acoustic Zen. They've spent a lot of time on the telephone and e-mail with me, and I very much appreciate that.
post #22 of 60
jude,

have you considered the tara labs air 3 as a replacement to the reference generations? the ref g2's are highly colored to smooth out upstream components, while the air 3 is a lot closer to neutrality while providing better detail and pace. it'll give you a taste of what tara offers with their big boys.

as for the bpt powercords, i personally think they're barely mediocre... you shouldn't have a hard time beating them. i find them to be glassy in the mid treble with a touch of leaness in the mid bass. to my ears, it's a very unbalanced presentation. the bp-4 isolator is another story though... nice product.

some other power cords to consider:

audience power chord: $300 retail - fantastic controll on the bottom end and highly musical. excellent power cord for amplification.

tek-line pc5w: $250 retail - adds a sweetness to the sound with a touch of midrange bloom. more colored than the audience but very pleasing to listen to.

tek-line pc12w: $450 retail - very fast sound while retaining a bit of the sweetness but not the heavy coloration of the pc5w. a little too much mid bass bloom to be considered neutral.

synergistic master coupler: avail everywhere for <$200 used - lots of perceived extension at both frequency extremes but a major suckout with everything in between. decent source power cord, where it's deficiencies aren't as aparent as with other components.

also stongly consider diy, i've found a few simple receipes to be worth much more than the effort of construction.

best,

carlo
post #23 of 60
Hi Carlo and welcome to Head-Fi! Glad to see that Audio Asylum isn't enough for you.

Might you be able to comment on the BPT power isolation units vs. the PS Audio PowerPlant series, especially the P300 with MultiWave?
post #24 of 60
Thread Starter 
carlo,

Glad to see you here, man. Thanks for the product recommendations. Yeah, I intend on trying/reviewing several cables from several manufacturers, so your suggestions are very much appreciated.

Please continue to visit and post here at Head-Fi regularly, carlo.

-- Jude --
post #25 of 60
He is talking about POWERCORDS, right???
post #26 of 60
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by MacDEF
He is talking about POWERCORDS, right???
MacDEF,

Yes he is. I didn't think they would, but they do make a difference.
post #27 of 60
jude and dan, thanks for the warm welcome.

jude:

i see you've been the brunt of some (good natured) ribbing here with your penchant of tweaks. i'm not nearly the prescence here that you seem to be, but rest assured i'll be chiming in with products we have mutual experience with. incidentally, have you and i chatted on aa's chat room? i'm wondering if that was the same jude...

dan:

moderator huh? impressive indeed. unfortunately i wasn't one of the guys who reviewed the ps300 multiwave when it was in, but just about every guy who did fell in love with the unit. i've only heard it in the context of other people's systems, so i don't really feel qualified to make any judgements on it.

as for the bp-4, the major things i noticed was increased detail and macrodynamics (basically increased PRaT) at the expense of soundstage width. unfortunately, i can't really go into detail because of the magazine (my product review is slated for the next issue), however, if you can wait i'm free to talk about it once that issue goes into the archives. just shoot me an email in a couple of months if you're still considering the bp-4.

best,

carlo
post #28 of 60
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by carlo
as for the bpt powercords, i personally think they're barely mediocre... you shouldn't have a hard time beating them. i find them to be glassy in the mid treble with a touch of leaness in the mid bass. to my ears, it's a very unbalanced presentation. the bp-4 isolator is another story though... nice product.
carlo,

What'd you have the BPT powercord plugged into? I'm not experiencing the glassy mid-treble or mid-bass leanness. The primary effect I've heard with the BPT C-7 (but only over an inexpensive Quail hospital-grade cord) is enhanced treble detail. This was very surprising for me, as it's not a signal-carrying cord.

Were you using the BPT cord with a high-current component? Mine is coming out of the butt end of a headphone amplifier (HeadRoom Max), which probably has a very mild power draw.
post #29 of 60
Quote:
I'm not experiencing the glassy mid-treble or mid-bass leanness. The primary effect I've heard with the BPT C-7 (but only over an inexpensive Quail hospital-grade cord) is enhanced treble detail. This was very surprising for me, as it's not a signal-carrying cord
Jude,

in my system that treble detail sounded like a <b>heavy</b> coloration. i had two c-10's and one c-7 in, and the were plugged into the cj sonographe sa250, anthem pre1l, and ah njoe tjoeb 400 (respectively). i listened to the cables completely wired through the system, and then with each component individually (and my reference cords on the rest of the components). our systems are rather different, so the sound qualities i heard could easily be contributed to that. for the record i didn't like the c-10 any more than the c-7.

MacDEF,

the theories behind powercord technology is definitely voodoo-like. as someone with a minor physics background the claims of design meant nothing to me, however the difference they made are not subtle. psychoacoustics? possibly, but we have to trust our ears. if possible, why not make a simple cord based on doc b's or chris venhaus' design and try it out? it's the only way to really know if the cost of cable upgrades are worth it.

best,

carlo
post #30 of 60
Thread Starter 
carlo,

I'm definitely looking forward to trying some of these other higher-end cables now more than ever. I agree with you that the changes aren't necessarily subtle. Like you, I'm at a loss to explain it, and I found it surprising as heck. But there it is.

Thanks again for the recommendations.
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