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Originally Posted by Duggeh View Post
I would have no objections to eating dog personally. Ive eaten horse, and in the UK thats pretty taboo, yet just over the channel, they make them into sausages and chomp them down.
I hear they fry potatoes in the fat, too.

A good friend of mine had a horse die from a heart defect. He immediately had the whole thing turned into sausages, much to the horror of his daughter who had been under the impression that they were going to bury it or something.

Speaking of which, you don't know the true meaning of the phrase "like kicking a dead horse" until you've been tasked with transporting a frozen ex-horse 150 yards down a hill to the side of the road so that the guys from the rendering plant can pick it up. Them animals are heavy and unweildy.
post #107 of 174
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I agree completely. I can support people who don't want to buy leather for ethical reasons, but when someone starts criticizing my cuisine, well, the gauntlet has been thrown down.
Huh? Did this happen somewhere and I missed it? I've read people stating their reasons they don't eat critters, but not criticizing those who do.

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If i were meant to live on plants, i wouldn't have teeth that can tear meat or a digestive system that can digest meat, or a physiology that depends on nutrients that come from meat and not plants.
We're omnivores. We've evolved so that we can sustain ourselves on diets with or without meat. And B-12 can be had in dairy and egg, common foods in just about every culture that I'm aware of. Just sayin'.

It's interesting to note the responses one can get from omnivores when one discusses being vegetarian. Some folks feel outright challenged. (Just as some vegetarians are outright uppity about their diets, I'll grant that -- I've known the type!) Me, I don't like to get preachy, but one girl I briefly dated seemed to suddenly need to write a poem with the line "I chew the meat until I taste the death of the animal" and, once, order raw beef cubes at an Ethopian restaurant while I ordered my veggie meal. (Later, they came back up. )
post #108 of 174
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Originally Posted by Duggeh View Post
Ive had near to zero fat beef, it tasted dull and boring. Fat is what gives a good steak its awesome flavour. A good marbled piece of prime beef.

You may have perhaps been referring to any side of visible fat, rather then the marbled fat.
The marblizing comes from high starch diet and very little movement. This beef, really veal, never at anything but grass and was outside in the fields every day of it's life. I really had very little fat. It tasted a touch gamy. Not much like any other beef I've ever had. My parents did it 3 years in a row and it always tasted the same.
post #109 of 174
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Do vegetarians believe in man made global warming?
Huh? Are you askin' if we believe in science? I'm all confused by that one...
post #110 of 174
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Originally Posted by ericj View Post
As a long-time amateur baker and a lover of popcorn, I doubt this very much. The part about it being tasty, I mean.
It actually does. At least the nutritional yeast I've had on popcorn. It tastes somewhat cheese like. Since I can't eat dairy, it's the closest I can get to cheese on popcorn. I haven't had it or any popcorn for over 10 years or so, so this is memory talking. Most yeasts other that nutritional yeast tastes terrible. The worst I've ever tasted was brewer's yeast that some vegetarians that I knew used to eat.

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Originally Posted by Torula Yeast View Post
And B-12 can be had in dairy and egg, common foods in just about every culture that I'm aware of. Just sayin'.
That's why I specifically asked about vegans. I've only been friends with one vegan about 20 years ago and his one exception was B-12 supplements.
post #111 of 174
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Originally Posted by scompton View Post
It actually does. At least the nutritional yeast I've had on popcorn. It tastes somewhat cheese like. Since I can't eat dairy, it's the closest I can get to cheese on popcorn. I haven't had it or any popcorn for over 10 years or so, so this is memory talking. Most yeasts other that nutritional yeast tastes terrible. The worst I've ever tasted was brewer's yeast that some vegetarians that I knew used to eat.
I'll second that about the tastiness! Nutritional yeast mixed with macaroni and soy milk makes for a very yummy "comfort food." They sell NY in open bins at many stores, including the QFC chain.
post #112 of 174
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Originally Posted by ken36 View Post
Do vegetarians believe in man made global warming?
Why don't you poll the 200,000 members of the Union of Concerned Scientists and find out.
post #113 of 174
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Originally Posted by ken36 View Post
Do vegetarians believe in man made global warming?
How does this relate whatsoever to someone being vegetarian or not?
post #114 of 174
Guys, I just opened a thread in the members lounge since this one stopped being about headphones long ago.

Thanks to the OP, though, for opening up an interesting topic. Who would've thought this thread would get up to six pages so fast?
post #115 of 174
Not to continue this thread, but I am working on a list of headphones without DIRECT use of animal products. I'll try to have it up by the end of today.
post #116 of 174
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Not to continue this thread, but I am working on a list of headphones without DIRECT use of animal products. I'll try to have it up by the end of today.
Nice. Probably the most helpful post here.
post #117 of 174
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Originally Posted by ericj View Post
That's a total nonsequiter. The bolt gun kills them instantly and effectively painlessly.
False. I've seen it numerous times first hand and you can it see it yourself on video. A careless and hasty placement of the bolt gun to the pig's head does not result in an instant kill, and many do it on purpose especially when they're slaughtering the animal for their family and/or friends. They believe that the freshest cut of meat you can get off the pig is while it's still alive in the last few minutes of its life.

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Originally Posted by ericj View Post
I doubt that this is the norm, or even common.

If you believe that it is, i would appreciate a citation supporting the argument.
You have doubt so you won't me to prove to you that this isn't the norm. No thanks. I don't owe you that. If it actually meant something to you and you cared about the issue, you would do the work yourself. Out of sight out of mind is the stereotypical angle all carnivores take.

I would appreciate a citation supporting why you think it's ok for this type of thing to happen, even if it were only happening on random occassions? It's quite silly, by simply logic, to play ourselves over this. If a slaughterhouse starts to make a habit of inhumane slaughter, and it creates a quicker process so that Bubba can have more time in the afternoon to enjoy his six pack, then why on earth would they have any motivation to return to the slower more methodical humane route. They wouldn't unless they have a conscious, and we all know that doesn't exist for them because of the industry they chose to be in in the first place.

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Originally Posted by ericj View Post
If your meat doesn't taste good, you're doing it wrong. Mine tastes great.
Sorry buy meat tastes like bland salty flesh without rubs, seasonings, sauces, etc. I ate it for the first fifteen years of my life because that was taught to me to be "normal".

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Originally Posted by ericj View Post
Inositol might be one example you've overlooked. And it's not tripe - tripe is the lining of the stomach. I don't eat it, but i hear it's popular throughout much of europe, south america, and asia.

Aside from that, you'd be surprised how much of what goes into a dietary supplement capsule can be traced back to animal origins.
I just love all the sarcasm and wit. Let's take a gander at the definition of tripe:

tripe
2 entries found for tripe.
To select an entry, click on it.

Main Entry: tripe
Pronunciation: 'trIp
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French
1 : stomach tissue especially of a ruminant (as an ox) used as food
2 : something poor, worthless, or offensive

What's that about dietary supplement capsules? Did I mention those at all? No. Thanks for the insight though. I've been using gelatin free supplements for over seven years now.

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Originally Posted by ericj View Post
It's not that they can't, it's that they didn't.
Does this make sense to anyone else?

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Originally Posted by ericj View Post
I'd like to state for the record, that I am NOT in favor of organically raised beef. The requirements for certified organic beef go too far. Banning the indiscriminate use of antibiotics is good, but banning the use of antibiotics on cattle that are actually sick and in need of antibiotics hurts the cow and doesn't help me at all. They also ban the use of insect repellants and pesticides, so a cow can be covered in ticks and biting flies and the rancher helpless to do anything about it.

There are a lot of problems in the meat industry, but I'd rather fix these problems than eradicate the industry.
To me, it's not ironic at all that you consider this extreme scenario to be the norm in the organic beef industry, yet the inhumane slaughter of chickens is "probably not" normal or common.
post #118 of 174
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Originally Posted by subfocus View Post
How does this relate whatsoever to someone being vegetarian or not?
He's one of those FoxNews guys completely trapped in the bubble. No need to take his comments seriously.
post #119 of 174
Yes...yet another taker of the Blue Pill.
post #120 of 174
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Nutritional yeast, but not brewer's yeast or torula yeast is a good source of B-12
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Originally Posted by Torula Yeast View Post
Alas, it's true.
How is it possible that a member by the name of Torula Yeast joined in November of 2006 and the first time I notice him is in a thread in which B12-containing yeast is discussed?
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