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post #826 of 1070
Hey everyone....

Spent the evening reading this thread (all 83 pages of it).

Strikes me there are 2 themes here.

1. How good the amp is.
2. The issue of charging the batteries.

Seeing as you cant order the $300 PSU, if you want one you either go for a stock Lisa or the XP and are then faced with arranging a charger.....I find it very odd that there isnt a link at the very least for people to buy a 'recommended' one - whatever country you are in - as a minimum.

A bit like the car dealer selling you a car and then saying "ah yes of course you need fuel - but we are not saying what brand/type or where you can get it from"........

So - what if, like me, you want one of these - but you live in the UK - 230v land. All the posts from fellow UK headfiers who have either bought this amp (or have been considering it) have had or raised issues on sourcing approriate chargers.

So any direct links to buy one? In the Uk...at 230v.....with the required 2.1mm jack ??????

If i can clear this thorny issue up ill have a Lisa XP str8 away (in silver please).

For a brand that has loyal and almost fanatical support and free promotion / publicity on here - it seems wholly bizarre that the item you need to make the bloody thing work is shrouded in such mystique and often is very problematic - perhaps more so for non US customers like myself.

So lets have some guidance and links - so i can get ordering!

Cheers,

Lee

PS - also a bit peturbed by the slow email responses mentioned...not what you get from the competition - i.e. Woo, RSA, Zana, etc etc.
post #827 of 1070
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Originally Posted by Lee Brindley View Post
So any direct links to buy one? In the Uk...at 230v.....with the required 2.1mm jack ??????
Don't know any specific power supplies, but it's my understanding that you want a linear regulated power supply that has an output of ~24V, and as little amperage as possible (500mA was recommended somewhere earlier).

It's not necessary to find a power supply with a 2.1mm jack. As I discovered this morning, you can buy very inexpensive little adapters to convert your power supply's output plug to the correct 2.1mm measurement.

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Originally Posted by Lee Brindley View Post
PS - also a bit peturbed by the slow email responses mentioned...not what you get from the competition - i.e. Woo, RSA, Zana, etc etc.
Just for the record, I've sent Brad three emails asking him questions, and he has given me a very informative response to each email promptly, within 24 hours.
post #828 of 1070
So - any links to any appropriate chargers in the UK - 230v that will fit the Lisa XP >

There are UK owners of this amp - so any help will be appreciated.

Thanks

Lee
post #829 of 1070
Maplin > Fixed Voltage AC/DC Unregulated Mains Adaptors

There, Lee Brindley, you need the N88AT, £14.99, I use the same type of power supply, (unregulated, 24v & 500mA), and it works perfectly.
post #830 of 1070
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Originally Posted by mnemoniak View Post
Maplin > Fixed Voltage AC/DC Unregulated Mains Adaptors

There, Lee Brindley, you need the N88AT, £14.99, I use the same type of power supply, (unregulated, 24v & 500mA), and it works perfectly.
Brilliant! Thats just what i needed...thank you.

This works with both versions of the Lisa 3 i take it - im going to go for the XP one though?

Thanks again!

Lee
post #831 of 1070
post #832 of 1070
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Originally Posted by mnemoniak View Post
Maplin > Fixed Voltage AC/DC Unregulated Mains Adaptors

There, Lee Brindley, you need the N88AT, £14.99, I use the same type of power supply, (unregulated, 24v & 500mA), and it works perfectly.
Doesn't unregulated mean that the output voltage will vary with the input voltage? So if you get some kind of mains spike, there's the risk that you could blow your amp?
post #833 of 1070
My Lisa III XP (black case, silver faceplates/knobs) is arriving Monday...

Kind of a stupid question, but I haven't seen any reference to this...

Do you charge the Lisa's batteries with the amp on or off?
post #834 of 1070
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Originally Posted by dgm View Post
My Lisa III XP (black case, silver faceplates/knobs) is arriving Monday...

Kind of a stupid question, but I haven't seen any reference to this...

Do you charge the Lisa's batteries with the amp on or off?
Does not matter, it will use the adapter for power and charging whenever plugged in.
post #835 of 1070
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Originally Posted by manaox2 View Post
Does not matter, it will use the adapter for power and charging whenever plugged in.
Awesome, thanks for the info.

I am really stoked about this amp coming Monday... I can't wait.
post #836 of 1070
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Originally Posted by Lee Brindley View Post
Hey everyone....

Spent the evening reading this thread (all 83 pages of it).

Strikes me there are 2 themes here.

1. How good the amp is.
2. The issue of charging the batteries.

Seeing as you cant order the $300 PSU, if you want one you either go for a stock Lisa or the XP and are then faced with arranging a charger.....I find it very odd that there isnt a link at the very least for people to buy a 'recommended' one - whatever country you are in - as a minimum.

A bit like the car dealer selling you a car and then saying "ah yes of course you need fuel - but we are not saying what brand/type or where you can get it from"........

For a brand that has loyal and almost fanatical support and free promotion / publicity on here - it seems wholly bizarre that the item you need to make the bloody thing work is shrouded in such mystique and often is very problematic - perhaps more so for non US customers like myself.
I'm in the US and just got my Lisa 3 which was dead withing 4 hours or so of turning it on. No charger in the box. A cryptic reference to the specs it should meet but no reference to a model number or where to get it. So now it sits. After wandering to the forum and scavenging the threads I now have a PS on order for the amp that sits downstairs dead as a doornail. I even plugged a set of alkalines in it but a day later and their dead too.

It may be a great amp, but this is frankly ludicrous. I have 3 other rechargable headphone amps and they all came with chargers. Why not this one? I've had it for 4 days and l can't listen to it and my charger doesnt come for another week.

I've bought high end hand made audio gear, had after market mods done to equipment and bought every kind of electronics there is over the past 25 years and never encountered this before.

Why don't people just say this is stupid and inexcusable so something gets done about it? Christ, I'd happily pay $35 or $50 more for the thing so it would work out of the box instead it of becoming an after work snipe hunt for one of the few power supplies on earth that works with it.
post #837 of 1070
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Originally Posted by Sanderman View Post
I'm in the US and just got my Lisa 3 which was dead withing 4 hours or so of turning it on. No charger in the box. A cryptic reference to the specs it should meet but no reference to a model number or where to get it. So now it sits. After wandering to the forum and scavenging the threads I now have a PS on order for the amp that sits downstairs dead as a doornail. I even plugged a set of alkalines in it but a day later and their dead too.

It may be a great amp, but this is frankly ludicrous. I have 3 other rechargable headphone amps and they all came with chargers. Why not this one? I've had it for 4 days and l can't listen to it and my charger doesnt come for another week.

I've bought high end hand made audio gear, had after market mods done to equipment and bought every kind of electronics there is over the past 25 years and never encountered this before.

Why don't people just say this is stupid and inexcusable so something gets done about it? Christ, I'd happily pay $35 or $50 more for the thing so it would work out of the box instead it of becoming an after work snipe hunt for one of the few power supplies on earth that works with it.
My solution i purposed to Brad was simply offer the LISA and the LLP as pair. Sure that would cost more however in the interest of Voltage compatibility anywhere in the world it solves your power supply issues so insteed of complaining that Brad offers no power supply and your amp sits Dead why not simply order the LLP and be done with it.
post #838 of 1070
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Originally Posted by ppl View Post
My solution i purposed to Brad was simply offer the LISA and the LLP as pair. Sure that would cost more however in the interest of Voltage compatibility anywhere in the world it solves your power supply issues so insteed of complaining that Brad offers no power supply and your amp sits Dead why not simply order the LLP and be done with it.
I still don't understand why a simple regulated supply isn't included that is world voltage capable. How hard is that? Maybe someone doesn't want to buy a 350 dollar (or whatever is costs) external power supply. The Lisa III has interested me but I still don't understand the hang up about supplying a simple regulated power supply.
post #839 of 1070
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Originally Posted by jamato8 View Post
I still don't understand why a simple regulated supply isn't included that is world voltage capable. How hard is that? Maybe someone doesn't want to buy a 350 dollar (or whatever is costs) external power supply. The Lisa III has interested me but I still don't understand the hang up about supplying a simple regulated power supply.
I am not a World traveler and so i do not have access to an international voltage regulated wall wart that will output no more than 26 Volts including the Ripple. In the Past i ordered lots of different brands of switching type power supply for the old PR-II and none were acceptable ether lots of noise and in one instance with an ELpac of all Brands destroyed a PPA Amp. Based upon these past experiences and the fact that LISA is way under priced as it is TRIAD simply can not afford to supply nice packaging and yes a wall transformer that works anywhere in the world at the price LISA is selling for. I feel that for Folks that want to do some research on there own that such a supply can be obtained and Thus saving them the cost of the optional LLP BTW which is like 100 times more cleaner than a wall wart. Some people have used with wall Transformers that are made for 220 Volts 50 Hz and these people have posted about what works on these very forums so a quick search would provide such info as http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f5/ord...ml#post4092205 also info on this is available at TriadAudio.net Forums • View topic - LISA III AC wall Adapter Recommendations maybe this will not be an issue in the Future when Government takes wall warts away and Manufactures are obligated to supply a costly External supply Ban Looms for External Transformers

OK maybe someone should make this a sticky http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f5/ord...ml#post4092205

Addendum: This Power supply while a switching type however from the specs alone it should work, Well See hopefully i can obtain one to test 24 volt power supply catalog. and the model PST-AC2415 24V 1.5 amp wall mount power supply ((PGFP361DA-2415EW) $22.50 $22.50
post #840 of 1070
I am glad when i got mine it only came as a set with the LLP so i was forced to bite the bullet thus avoiding the search. It is quiet too.
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