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post #46 of 1070
Looking forward to hearing a comparison of the standard and Expedition versions of the Lisa III. I'm one of those people for whom a transportable amp makes sense. I would love an amp that can be caried around my home from location to location but that has home amp quality. There's a market for such a beast and I'm an example of it.

The other comparison that I (and many) would like to see is Lisa III (either or both versions) and Xin Reference...
post #47 of 1070
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Originally Posted by flashbak View Post
Here ya go folks: It is obsolete but you can still buy from the following distributors:
WM080-1950-760 ALLIED ELECTRONICS, INC. 64 7/26/2007
WM080-1950-760 NEWARK 56 7/26/2007
Direct links below:

http://www.alliedelec.com/Search/Sea...ABD88063C2617F

http://www.newark.com/jsp/search/results.jsp?N=511&Ntk=PLS_MAN_BRAND_NAME|gensearch _001&Ntt=ELPAC%20POWER%20SYSTEMS|WM080-1950-760
Why does the third prong on that look weird? Have we confirmed that this will work with the Lisa for US customers???
post #48 of 1070
That part # is directly from Phil LaRocco Yes, it does look a little different but I don't see why it wouldn't work, since it is just the ground terminal and the tip just looks open. I'll have a look tonight since mine arrived on Tuesday.
post #49 of 1070
Wakeride74,
Just checked the AC Adapter and it is normal looking
post #50 of 1070
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Originally Posted by flashbak View Post
Wakeride74,
Just checked the AC Adapter and it is normal looking
Sweet! Where are y'all getting your batteries from?


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I was following the design phase and according to the schematics, it's INCREDIBLE! Fully 3-channel discrete output stage with a nice voltage gain stage and finally, a portable amp that runs with enough voltage!
Can someone explain what this means to my ears?? I don't speak tech very well
post #51 of 1070
They are supplied with the amp. Standard has (2) 9V rechargables, the Expedition uses a pack that consists of 12 AA rechargables.
To answer your second question, it translates into superb performance!
post #52 of 1070
I hope high-end Triad Audio doesn't get sued by low-end Behringer...





(Sorry for off-topic, but that logo is really obvious...)
post #53 of 1070
I just got home from work. I walked inside the door and my girlfriend presented me with a package. The box said triad audio. Inside of course was the Lisa III. I was surprise that she let me have it so soon, as this is intended to be a birthday gift. My birthday is not until November, but I expected the wait to be much longer.

I instantly hooked up my iMod to the Lisa and plugged in my ms2i's. I have limited experience with amps, but I can safely say that this is without a doubt the nicest amp i have ever heard! There is a great improvement in SQ across the board over my hornet. It makes my Alessandros sound more spacious, and the added detail is awesome.

These are only my first and limited impressions, but I am super excited about the Lisa III.

Best. Birthday. Present. Ever. Thanks honey!!!

EDIT: I can't wait to get my Darth Beyers and try them with this amp.
post #54 of 1070
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Originally Posted by cutthroat View Post
I just got home from work. I walked inside the door and my girlfriend presented me with a package. The box said triad audio. Inside of course was the Lisa III. I was surprise that she let me have it so soon, as this is intended to be a birthday gift. My birthday is not until November, but I expected the wait to be much longer.

I instantly hooked up my iMod to the Lisa and plugged in my ms2i's. I have limited experience with amps, but I can safely say that this is without a doubt the nicest amp i have ever heard! There is a great improvement in SQ across the board over my hornet. It makes my Alessandros sound more spacious, and the added detail is awesome.

These are only my first and limited impressions, but I am super excited about the Lisa III.

Best. Birthday. Present. Ever. Thanks honey!!!

EDIT: I can't wait to get my Darth Beyers and try them with this amp.
Ok if there is one there must be more so speak up all of you that have received Lisa!

cutthroat - How are the vocals and bass compared to the Hornet??? I love the forward/intimate vocal presentation of the Hornet and I love my bass
post #55 of 1070
Out of the box the vocals seem clearer and slightly more forward than with the Hornet. The bass quality is much better, and the quantity is adjustable via the bass control knob. BTW the bass knob on my Lisa is engraved "Base."
post #56 of 1070
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Originally Posted by cutthroat View Post
Out of the box the vocals seem clearer and slightly more forward than with the Hornet. The bass quality is much better, and the quantity is adjustable via the bass control knob. BTW the bass knob on my Lisa is engraved "Base."
As in "home base"? lol!

Sound like a winner... I ordered mine today in all black. I was going to wait for the Expedition but it sounds like the differences will be minimal and the trade off in size will not be worth it for my use.

BTW - Ken at ALO might have something special on the way for Lisa owners
post #57 of 1070
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BTW - Ken at ALO might have something special on the way for Lisa owners
No speculations, or are you keeping us in the dark Is it like some dedicated interconnect, accessory?
post #58 of 1070
right angle rca's maybe?
post #59 of 1070

EXPIDITION BIAS Statement retraction

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Originally Posted by flashbak View Post
Here's the explanation from Phil LaRocco the designer of the Lisa III, with regard to the Expedition:

"The LISA III Expedition Edition has the same footprint of 3 inches wide X 6.3 Inches in depth as the LISA III, However is 1.7 Inches in Hight. The Expedition Replaces the Standard versions 9 volt battery pair with Ultra high capacity (For this application) NI-MH battery with 14.7 Volts @ 2100 MAh. This will allow the Expedition to play over 50 Hours per charge at nominal listening levels.The Expedition Edition also has substantially increased Bias for the entire output stage allowing more depth of Image than the standard LISA."

Note: This information regarding bias my longer be the case with the production unit. I am awaiting confirmation on it!

my statement quoted is no longer true regarding the Higher Bias setting on the Expedition. The wood prototype Skylab reviewed was a standard Amp and thus standard Bias. The Expedition PIG POPPA Reviewed was an Expedition and was at a Higher Bias. Both these were prototypes. The CRD Diodes required for the High Bias setting became unavailable at the time the Mass order of parts for this Lot of Amps were ordered. One of the reasons Triad Audio is able to offer this complex of an amp packaged so well at this price point is not only the result of Design efficiency but in addition is also made possible by buying in Bulk.

All LISA III's produced for this first batch that are offered for sale at this moment in time are of standard Bias regardless of the model, both the Expedition and the standard models offered for sale are of the same Bias. The only difference Electrically between the two is the Up-graded batteries from 9 Volt 150 mAH NI-MH to 2000 mAH AA celled Battery pack and thus offering long run time between charges, Moreover since the Batteries are discharging at a small rate there life expectancy should be a Very Very long time. To acomidate this extra large battery the charging circuit is also reset to charge at a Higher current, this is simply done by changing a resistor and thus both Models use the same Charging Circuit except the current set resistor value is different.

I apologize for not mentioning this right away prior to your ordering, With all the many things i have had to do latly this detail sliped my mind.
post #60 of 1070
Assuming that a new parts order is needed at some point in the future, will the higher bias be used in the Expedition amps of that vintage?
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