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post #286 of 1070
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Originally Posted by slwiser View Post
I just have to say this; you mean that it is not impressive already?
slwiser, soncially the LISA III XP is almost perfect. But cosmetically the woody case still have room to improve. I hope Brad will figure out how to retain the wood grains across the joint seams, while still making the case internal accessible to users.

Besides, the trims (knobs, switches and plugs ) can take a new level of refinement to match the effort and dedication one put into a unique wood case. ..... yes, I am a perfectionist too

Francis
post #287 of 1070
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Originally Posted by Skylab View Post
Francis, great review, thank you! I am anxious for my woody XP to arrive
Skylab, I am afraid I have bad news to tell. When Brad was in Hong Kong we talked about the woodies. And since TriadAudio first priority is to meet the orders first the woody will have to wait. Indeed, Brad need to figure out a way to make a unique case that (a) retains the natural beauty of the wood, (b) ensure matching grains throughout the case (c) make it accessible for future servicing, and (d) less expensive to make....

As a result, I told Brad that I will order a Silver set of XP + LLP, and will wait until he has the time to work on the wood project. My plan is when the woody is finally available., I will sell the metal set.

As for the woody I have on hand, it is actually a gift from Brad and Phil. And that will be the only one made.

Francis
post #288 of 1070
This is all great news. It is nice to see a small amp with discrete output and with high marks on sound quality. Headphone audio has come a very long way in a fairly short period of time.

What a beautiful gift, the Lisa III in wood.
post #289 of 1070
I haven't read anything about the bass control. What is the perceived usefulness of this? Do you find it an improvement or is it left off most of the time?
post #290 of 1070
I like the bass contour, since it really operates only on the deep bass, and is pretty subtle. I tend to use it at about the halfway mark on most of the cans I use with the Lisa.
post #291 of 1070
Skylab,
Bass control on mine tends to be set between at about 10:00/11:00 oclock here
post #292 of 1070
Yep, sounds about right
post #293 of 1070
Does the bass control decrease and increase the bass? Why not have a high frequency control? I am just curious why a bass control was needed.
post #294 of 1070
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Originally Posted by jamato8 View Post
Does the bass control decrease and increase the bass? Why not have a high frequency control? I am just curious why a bass control was needed.
Even though I don't have the Lisa III (yet ), I think that I can answer this. The bass contour adds bass only - so "off" is the amp's normal bass response. PPL's theory, which you will find on the old Larocco Audio site, is that dynamic headphones always have a natural rolloff of lower bass such that you never fully hear what the music and amp were attempting to convey. The bass contour control increases bass in the lowest frequencies to allow the bass as heard by one's ears to match the original signal.

(Am I right?)
post #295 of 1070
I remember hearing about the Fletcher Munson curve (think that is how it was spelled) that shows at lower volume levels the human ear doesn't detect bass in the proper proportion and needs to be compensated for. Years ago when I had McIntosh amps/preamps they had a loudness contour switch on their preamps to address this issue. So at least it would help at lower listening levels. I'm sure ppl is addressing a different issue though with regard to earphones but maybe that is part of it?
post #296 of 1070
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Originally Posted by flashbak View Post
I'm sure ppl is addressing a different issue though with regard to earphones.
No, you're right, Fletcher-Munson does come into play, and headphones do not get the benefit of things like Boundary-reinforcement that speakers get (not
to mention subwoofers )
post #297 of 1070
Ok, so some use it around 11 or 12 oclock. How has it enhanced your listening experience or changed your perception of what you are hearing?
post #298 of 1070
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Originally Posted by jamato8 View Post
Ok, so some use it around 11 or 12 oclock. How has it enhanced your listening experience or changed your perception of what you are hearing?
That's easy: stronger deep bass. Really impressive on cans that can actually reproduce it.
post #299 of 1070
Are there any cans that you feel it is more effective with? Does it add to the acoustical feel of space at the recording venue?
post #300 of 1070
btw guys, can you try turning LISA III's volume to the max without any music playing?

I'd like to know if there's a background noise. Thanks.
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