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post #271 of 1070
Jimmy, what is the size dimension of the XP version? It looks like PPA v2's size to me.

Thanks.
post #272 of 1070
Lisa comes with 2 x NIMH rechargable batteries. For adaptor, the manual recommends 24v 200ma regulated with positive centered.

For the dimension (W x L x H), the standard is 8 x 16 x 3 cm while the xp has approx. 6 cm in its height.
post #273 of 1070
Thanks Jimmy.

there's something wrong with me.

I CANT RESIST THIS SEXY THING AT ALL!! The LISA III not only looks good but actually sounds good! (i have build similar amps before based of ppl's design and i know how good they are)

Oh well, maybe it's time i quit DIY and spend the money on LISA III instead.
post #274 of 1070

LISA III XP - Impressions

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Originally Posted by jamato8 View Post
That is a lot of ipods. Nice images. Yeah, so what about the ssssssound?? You know, the tuuuunes. . . did you tap your foot or walk away??
May be I should jam in here. I have on hand the unique woody LISA III XP with me. While the casing in not yet perfect, the electronics are the same the those XP now selling. I listened to this special woody version of the LISA III XP for a full week.

Sonically, the LISA XP is the best battery power amp I have ever listened. I tried it on my recabled HD650 (using Revelation Audio Lab cables), a recabled K701 (by Stefan Art Audio Equinox), and my Edition 9. The music I listened to are mostly jazz, female vocals, classical musics, and some Chinese chassics. All are audiophile recordings. And the listening experience with the LISA is almost a revelation.

First off, the LISA is extremely detailed. Its resolving power is just stunning. Micro details are revealed where I missed in while listening through other amps. Bass are deep, controlled, textured, and tonally correct, not plentiful, but the right amount of bass you would expect from the recording.

But what impressed me most are two things : The LISA is very organic and natural. Everything is in the right proportion, and well balanced. The speed, depth, and width are there. Imaging is precise. The magic is all these display without being felt analytical or edgy. The sonic spectrum is one silky smooth continuation, and extends far at both ends. The layering is superb - the separationg of instruments and the singer(s) can be easily pointed out.

As a whole listening to the LISA XP is a very engaging and forgetting ( you lost track of time ) experience. It draws me into the music. It is so involving that sometimes I feel a bit scary - as once I thought I was somewhere else - literally detached from reality.

For what is worth, I use a simple 24V d.c. supply to charge my LISA, and during listening, I run on the batteries. I do expect when the LLP is available, I will power the LISA XP full time, and expect some small improvements in sonics as well. For those interested, I am using a pair of Cyrstal Cable Micro as interconnect, and feeding the LISA XP from my 80G iPod and my Marantz SACD player.

Here is my overall judgement on the LISA XP :-

a. It sounds in general better than my beloved Lehmann Black Cube Linear. The organic part wins hands down. The BCL has a bit more power, but the LISA is more than sufficient.

b. The LISA also sound better than the SOLO w PSU in most parts (based on my fainted memory as I have sold the SOLO). However, the Solo 's stunning dynamics still have a slight edge - depending on what you listen.

c. The LISA is more resolving then the WA6, and also faster. Well the WA6 is still having an impresive balance between tube warmth, resolution and smoothness, but the LISA is more real, organic, and revealed more micro details.

d. The LISA is, surprisingly, on par with my RPX-100 in terms of resolution. Granted, the PRX-100 is still better in other departments - being natural, transparent, and more important, its ability to add that meaty feel in a balanced and coherent playback that is half an notch up in terrms of how it engages the listener.

e. For all portables / battery power amps I have listened so far, the LISA XP wins hands down. And that includes quite a few - from Shellbrook Labs, RSA, Xin, C&C, and LaRocco adding to almost 10 of them. Yes, it is better than the Pocket Reference II (or LISA II), also designed by Phil.

Again, this is my personal experience, and judgement, using my own pair of ears, and my music. YMMV.

Regards,
Francis
post #275 of 1070
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Originally Posted by jamato8 View Post
Ok, but as the amp comes, the only way to use it is if you buy the Elpac otherwise you have an amp with no way of charging the batteries, is the right? So what are the real benifits of the 300 dollars ps over the Elpac?
The $300 is a laboratroy grade power supply. Apart from serving as a charger, the LLP will take over the power supply to the amp. It is a highly regulated and ripple free d.c. capable of catching up with the swings in the demand for power as driven by the music. I haven't heard it yet but from my experience with the PSR (the dedicated power supply designed by Phil for the Pocket Reference II) I would expect the ample power reserve of the LLP will be reflected in slightly more headroom, better dynamics (especially for those who listen loud) and may be even better bass at the extreme low register. Compared to other AC powered amps, I would expect the LLP can provide a lower noise floor, although a battery power source is already very quiet in this regard.

Yes, this is expectation (guessing) but we will see when the LLP ships.

Edit: Just want to add that according to Phil LaRocco the LLP is the best power supply project he has accomplished to-date. And I have all the trust in his talent


Regards,
Francis
post #276 of 1070
fkclo,
Nice review and I agree. If you look at my earlier posts, I keep saying it is more natural sounding then any other transportable I've ever heard! The overall sound is just more lifelike (real) is the best I can describe it. All my CD's took on this new characteristic!
post #277 of 1070
flashbak,

Thanks for the compliments. I am not a professional reviewer. Just wanted to share my impressions. Besides, English is not my native language, so sometimes I am simply wordless in trying to describe what I have heard.

Honestly, had it not been my recent purchase of the RPX-100, I would be shocked by how good the LISA XP sounds. The PRX-100 has opened up a new horizon in my audio-sphere, and set new heights to what can be achieved through a great headphone amp design.

Yet, the LISA III, even with the LLP bundled, is less than 1/3 of the price of a PRX-100, and takes a much small footprint on my rig. If we take this into account I would say the Phil has accomplished a lot, and we should thank TriadAudio for making such a high-end amp so affordable.

Francis
post #278 of 1070
Francis thank you for such an in depth and meaningful interpretation of what you are hearing. You have answered a number of questions. I have been looking forward to a smaller type amp that would incorporate a good discrete output and while this is not a small portable, it is portable and would seem to provide great enjoyment both at home and while mobile.

On the mobile part, I can not recall, does it have RCA's and mini in or just RCA? The RCA in would make it a little harder for in a large pocket or small bag but it could be done.
post #279 of 1070

Woody LISA III

For those interested, this is the woody I have:-





This is a unique 3 piece construction milled from one solid block of wood (can't remember the name Brad told me) which was intended to retain the matching grains through the seams. This is definitely a more exotic and labour intensive way to make a wood casing, compared to the traditional "boxing approach" which use think pieces of wood to make a box.

Unfortunately, in order to make provisions for the joint the grain matching was not perfect. That's why it is an experimental product. If the knobs can be upgraded to match a stained full grain wood enclosure with matching grain with the LLP this would be pretty impressive

And when do you see Phil LaRocco putting his own signature on his design



Francis
post #280 of 1070
It looks like a 2X4. :^)
post #281 of 1070
I don't suppose the Standard or the XP could power a K1000 well, could they?
post #282 of 1070
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Originally Posted by OverlordXenu View Post
I don't suppose the Standard or the XP could power a K1000 well, could they?
High gain setting would help, I think
post #283 of 1070
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Originally Posted by fkclo View Post
If the knobs can be upgraded to match a stained full grain wood enclosure with matching grain with the LLP this would be pretty impressive
Francis
I just have to say this; you mean that it is not impressive already?
post #284 of 1070
Francis, great review, thank you! I am anxious for my woody XP to arrive
post #285 of 1070
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Originally Posted by fkclo View Post
As a whole listening to the LISA XP is a very engaging and forgetting ( you lost track of time ) experience. It draws me into the music. It is so involving that sometimes I feel a bit scary - as once I thought I was somewhere else - literally detached from reality.
Francis, I'd to confirm your statement.

In addition to yours, while I was listening to some track in the late night alone. The music really made me felt the impact of low sound and its background environment like I was in the music field. Both scary and surprise
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