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Originally Posted by lee730 

So you feel quality is going down on current releases in general? What a sad day in music history, and I thought it was just we're lacking real talent unlike the stars of yesteryear.

 

Well, I don't want to be the cliché guy here, so I'll try to be more clear...

I've heard/read a lot of people stating things such as "no one is able to master like long ago anymore", as if the bands of the 70s went to record in Atlantis.

Those are the kind of people that for more or less the same reasons go around flea markets in Central Europe looking for nazi tubes... 

Well I am not that type at all.

True is that 20 or 30 years ago the pop majors were much more motivated in recording they rocking kids the best they could, whereas nowadays it's all about loudness racing and sampled drums.

Even without sampled drums, both remasters as How the West Was Won or new releases as Californication seem a mockery to the aficionados, given the technology available.

Contrariwise, classical music labels have made big steps foward, but they actually cannot afford recording expenses anymore, and rely on patronage...

And when new formats are available, the most listens to sounds that don't need nor deserve present-day technology.

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Originally Posted by Edoardo 

Well, I don't want to be the cliché guy here, so I'll try to be more clear...

 

I've heard/read a lot of people stating things such as "no one is able to master like long ago anymore", as if the bands of the 70s went to record in Atlantis.

Those are the kind of people that for more or less the same reasons go around flea markets in Central Europe looking for nazi tubes... 

Well I am not that type at all.

 

True is that 20 or 30 years ago the pop majors were much more motivated in recording they rocking kids the best they could, whereas nowadays it's all about loudness racing and sampled drums.

Even without sampled drums, both remasters as How the West Was Won or new releases as Californication seem a mockery to the aficionados, given the technology available.

 

Contrariwise, classical music labels have made big steps foward, but they actually cannot afford recording expenses anymore, and rely on patronage...

 

And when new formats are available, the most listens to sounds that don't need nor deserve present-day technology.

How do you know this? You do your credibility no favours when you state that you don't use objective ABX testing. I'll concede that most records these days come off the press 'hot' but that's why we use replaygain. 

Cheers

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Originally Posted by Tone Def 

How do you know this? You do your credibility no favours when you state that you don't use objective ABX testing. I'll concede that most records these days come off the press 'hot' but that's why we use replaygain. 

 

Cheers

 

well, the "this" I wrote there come from my personal mix of knowledge, musical skills and acquaintaces, which are not questionable and have nothing to do with my testing methods.

Anyway, what can beat switching the computer monitor off :D

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Originally Posted by Edoardo 

well, the "this" I wrote there come from my personal mix of knowledge, musical skills and acquaintaces, which are not questionable and have nothing to do with my testing methods.

 

Anyway, what can beat switching the computer monitor off :D

Then don't pass it off as fact or make sweeping generalizations and if you do, expect your testing methodology to be called into question.

We're here to share both opinions given IMHO and knowledge on facts.

Facts do pass off as they are, and remain such, regardless of the coolness of one's Software Media Player

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Originally Posted by Edoardo 

We're here to share both opinions given IMHO and knowledge on facts.

Facts do pass off as they are, and remain such, regardless of the coolness of one's Software Media Player

It has nothing to do with "the coolness of one's Software Media Player" and everything to do with generalizations such as these.

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Originally Posted by Edoardo 

So... Nowadays we find quality recordings almost only in unplugged/classical music, and for the niche who attends that kind of concerts... It's a sad thing... But it's no coincidence to me!

All I'm asking for is objective proof.

Cheers

i like to put in that way:get a expensive speakers at loud volume and compare to yourself,the louder the sound the more imperfection come to my ears (i dont have expensive speakers,i dont have speakers at all,but i used some from a friend) when playing mp3.

FLAC is amazing because i can copy an exact image from my albums and store it digitally,in case of a apocalyptic zombie infection,a uprising machine revolution or a alien invasion,for example,so just take your external hard-drive,a katana,some food and a first aid kit and find refuge in the amazon forest and wait for thing coming back to normality.

Yes.  To me it is just about having a perfect copy of my original CD's.

I pay money and spend time tweaking, tuning and modifying my gear to sound the best it possibly can.

I don't want to deliberately degrade my tracks and then worry about what might be missing or changed.

That is just my opinion and to each their own though.