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post #91 of 472
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Originally Posted by spritzer View Post
I'd really like to convert an old beat up Sigma to the 404 standard but using the Lambda Pro will yield yet another flavor of sound. I really like the old SR-Lambda drivers though as you can get a phenomenal result with them if they are fed well. If you put L-Pro drivers in them they will not be like the Sigma Pro's as they used Lambda Signature drivers and the PC-OCC cable.
Hey, that's new to me! I did not know that. I really doubt I'll find a set of Lambda Sigs that I would want to tear up. Maybe I'll just stick to the 404 path.
post #92 of 472
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Originally Posted by ferrstein View Post
Hey, that's new to me! I did not know that. I really doubt I'll find a set of Lambda Sigs that I would want to tear up. Maybe I'll just stick to the 404 path.
Put some SC-1 drivers into it for the lulz.
post #93 of 472
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Originally Posted by Carl View Post
Put some SC-1 drivers into it for the lulz.
Okay, so I didn't understand a word you just said!

Is this a stax driver? All this Staxen terminology is making my head hurt!
post #94 of 472
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Originally Posted by edstrelow View Post
I tend to agree. The Stax engineers were thinking "out of the box" when they designed these. Oddly enough they ended up putting the boxes on your ears.

It's too bad there have not been more experiments of this sort. The basic circumaural, which is the design used for most flagship phones, cannot be the ultimate in cup design.
The Omegas have an even better soundstage then the Sigmas so that seems to be the case. Designing a Sigma type earcup with the Omega build quality would be a huge undertaking...

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Originally Posted by ferrstein View Post
Hey, that's new to me! I did not know that. I really doubt I'll find a set of Lambda Sigs that I would want to tear up. Maybe I'll just stick to the 404 path.
The Signatures can be had cheaply and there are always some units with broken arcs or something like that that can be had for little money. I believe that the 404 driver is better but I'd like to try a Nova Signature mod since I have a space...

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Okay, so I didn't understand a word you just said!

Is this a stax driver? All this Staxen terminology is making my head hurt!
The SC-1 is a modified 404 that is almost double the price. Carl wrote a pretty funny review about them once, look it up...
post #95 of 472
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Okay, so I didn't understand a word you just said!

Is this a stax driver? All this Staxen terminology is making my head hurt!
The Airbow SR-SC1 is a cryogenically treated version of the 404 made by a Japanese company called Ippinkan. It sounds pretty different from the original.


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Originally Posted by spritzer View Post
The SC-1 is a modified 404 that is almost double the price. Carl wrote a pretty funny review about them once, look it up...
Those were the days.
post #96 of 472
Too bad that you can't swap the drivers in the Sigmas easily like with the 4070. With all these different drivers you could tune them for the sound you like.

So Carl how about fitting some SR-Lambda drivers to the 4070?

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Those were the days.
Ahh to be young again and writing reviews drunk. I did learn my lesson about posting stuff drunk when my posts were on the news and the cops knocked on my door...
post #97 of 472
Oh you cant say something like that and not linky us to the posts in question. ;D
post #98 of 472
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Stax Sigmas and Computer Based Recording Programs

I was surfing the net today looking for computer based recording programs that have the ability to alter the sounds that might be listened to via a pair of Stax Sigma Pros and or Stax Non Pro headphones. I currently own a recording program called Sonar Producer which has the ability to record and alter the recording of many instruments into Stereo, Quad etc. The speaker locations can also be adjusted as well.
Does anyone out there in Headfi.org land have any information or I there anyone out there who has performed some informal studies on how the use of these computer based home studios could effect and improve the sound being heard through a pair of Stax Sigma Pros or Non Pro headphones.
It would be interesting to see what improvements, if any could be obtained via these programs.

Scottsmrnyc
post #99 of 472
They are all long gone since this was back in 2001. Some people just don't see the humor on spreading horrible rumors about people... even if they never really existed

It wasn't my fault that the school forum didn't require a log-in so anybody could post under a pseudo name
post #100 of 472
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Originally Posted by spritzer View Post
Too bad that you can't swap the drivers in the Sigmas easily like with the 4070. With all these different drivers you could tune them for the sound you like.
You can't exactly do that with 4070s, either. Without the ports cut into the baffle the soundstage is about as wide as a toothpick.

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So Carl how about fitting some SR-Lambda drivers to the 4070?
I'm always open to presents. I really want to try out some Signature drivers in them sometime.


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Originally Posted by spritzer View Post
They are all long gone since this was back in 2001. Some people just don't see the humor on spreading horrible rumors about people... even if they never really existed

It wasn't my fault that the school forum didn't require a log-in so anybody could post under a pseudo name
My school had a terrible IT system, so I missed out on all the fun.
post #101 of 472
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Originally Posted by Carl View Post
You can't exactly do that with 4070s, either. Without the ports cut into the baffle the soundstage is about as wide as a toothpick.
Is the baffle aluminum as well in the 4070 or did they use something new? I know I should just buy a set an rip it apart...

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Originally Posted by Carl View Post
I'm always open to presents. I really want to try out some Signature drivers in them sometime.
When I have some extra they will be on the next flight to you. The Signature drivers are very nice but I could never open either one of my sets. The earpads can't be replaced and I'm a bit of a nut as I want them to be as close to stock as possible. It's the same with the Nova Sigs but their 1.5um driver should give some of that SR-Omega sound...

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My school had a terrible IT system, so I missed out on all the fun.
There was a lot of fun to be had. I stopped breaking into the system when I found all of the tests stored as I didn't really want to be expelled.
post #102 of 472
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Originally Posted by spritzer View Post
Is the baffle aluminum as well in the 4070 or did they use something new? I know I should just buy a set an rip it apart...
Which models have metal baffles? All of them as far as I'm aware use PET.
post #103 of 472
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Originally Posted by Carl View Post
Which models have metal baffles? All of them as far as I'm aware use PET.
Man that came out all wrong. I shouldn't really post until I've woken up...

They do all use PET as far as I know but since they changed the arc they might have used a proper baffle. Getting some CNC'd baffles might be an easy mod for the entire Lambda line.
post #104 of 472
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Originally Posted by spritzer View Post
Man that came out all wrong. I shouldn't really post until I've woken up...
Don't you get up in the middle of the night? Or is today a day off?

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They do all use PET as far as I know but since they changed the arc they might have used a proper baffle. Getting some CNC'd baffles might be an easy mod for the entire Lambda line.
The drivers in the 4070 are completely identical to the 404, except they've CNCed some groves (90mm x 2mm) into the baffle.

Why aluminium? It wouldn't be my choice for a baffle material. Wood or PMMA would be a step up, though. Titanium, carbon fiber and aramid might be interesting too.
post #105 of 472
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Originally Posted by Carl View Post
Don't you get up in the middle of the night? Or is today a day off?
It's a day off although I didn't sleep much longer. This really messes up your head but it is worth it to be done working at 11 in the morning...

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Originally Posted by Carl View Post
The drivers in the 4070 are completely identical to the 404, except they've CNCed some groves (90mm x 2mm) into the baffle.

Why aluminium? It wouldn't be my choice for a baffle material. Wood or PMMA would be a step up, though. Titanium, carbon fiber and aramid might be interesting too.
Aircraft grade aluminum is very stiff and nonresonant but maple would also be a superb choice. The baffle is very thin so any use of wood would probably be best if the earcup was also redesigned and the driver was clamped between them. Keep the cup short enough so no tunnel effect creeps up. The only problem is the different placement of the drivers through out the Lambda line and how that could be compensated for.
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