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post #91 of 360
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Originally Posted by LowPhreak View Post
If/when OSX becomes winbox able, I'll be buying a copy. (Hurryap, Steve!)
Never gonna happen. If OS X ran on anybody's computer, how would Apple sell hardware?
post #92 of 360
xp pro on a thinkpad...
xp mce on a desktop...
osx on a macbook...

and for my business i have 4 machines running xp pro (stash the music on my server)...

not really interested in upgrading to vista until i absolutely have to... which hopefully will be a good long time... at which point i would seriously consider going all apple... every "new version" of windows that comes out is going to be the one that fixes the security holes... frankly, they'll never all be fixed, because there's too many anti-social lowlifes out there who have nothing better to do other than sit there behind their computer screen and hack apart windows to write viruses to make them feel like they have some value in their otherwise useless sorry existence... that's not the reason i won't go to vista (really don't want to dump a whole bunch of money into new hardware), but it's a fact of life when it comes to windows...

as far as the cost of "mac memory"... ummm... anytime you buy a memory upgrade from the manufacturer, regardless of who it is, it's gonna cost you... dunno about other macs, but the macbook i just upgraded took plain old ddr2 memory, nothing "mac-centric" about it...
post #93 of 360
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Originally Posted by goldenratiophi View Post
Never gonna happen. If OS X ran on anybody's computer, how would Apple sell hardware?
Bingo! They are an integrated systems manufacturer/retailer.

Mac/OSX, iPod/iTunes, iPhone/OSX They like everything to be pretty well ready to go out of the box using their stuff. "It just works" is perhaps not 100% true but is not far off when comparing other hardware/software combinations in the wild.

With the latest news that Apple is now nudging Gateway out of the 3 top hardware manufacturers...and their OSX is creeping ever so slowly into the maintstream corporate space, Apple is now worth just under HP and slowly closing the gap on IBM. Sure much is iPod-related (and inflated with iPhone) but this allows a lot of funds to pump into R&D for new Macs (new iMacs are rumored to be all touch screen by next spring....same with the new laptops).

Anyhow, they would increase their complications by a wide margin if they were all things to everyone. This is why MS has problems, and in many ways why Linux has not been widely adopted. Too many distros, too many windows managers, not enough coherency for corporations to throw it out on the desktops.
post #94 of 360
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as far as the cost of "mac memory"... ummm... anytime you buy a memory upgrade from the manufacturer, regardless of who it is, it's gonna cost you... dunno about other macs, but the macbook i just upgraded took plain old ddr2 memory, nothing "mac-centric" about it...
When I increased the ram in my macbook pro, I bought a stick from NewEgg. It was if I remember correctly 60% less than buying from Apple.
post #95 of 360
I run Windows Server 2003 on my desktop, and Zenwalk linux on the laptop.
post #96 of 360
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Originally Posted by Zanth View Post
When I increased the ram in my macbook pro, I bought a stick from NewEgg. It was if I remember correctly 60% less than buying from Apple.
yup. that's what i did as well. patiently waited (not long either) for a decent sale/rebate, and bought 2 1gig sticks... it took all of 5 minutes to put in, and only because it took me a few minutes to find my toolkit...

i agree with the "it just works" theory put forth in another post... the mac is ridiculously easy to work with...
post #97 of 360
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Originally Posted by Gatticus View Post
I don't use the shiny new GUI in Vista. Turned aero off and set it to classic mode. I don't like how the start menu is under aero. Fact is, Vista is a better OS. But I didn't know that guy already had a perfectly good XP machine. I guess I would recommend against the upgrade too in that case. But for new PC purchasers they should get Vista.
Far too many people either don't know or don't care about anything aside the GUI, that is their only reason for wanting it.

The problem was that when Vista came out, Microsoft didn't give OEM manufacturers a choice. They HAD to give you Vista because Microsoft wouldn't let them install XP.

The reception for Vista however was SO bad that OEMs went against Microsoft (Dell was thee first, I don't know if there were any others) and started selling XP again because people didn't want Vista.
post #98 of 360
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Originally Posted by thebob View Post
I think Mac is an excellent 'Audiophile' system because 'Core audio' is built right in there, at system level. Problem is getting that clean audio out.
Unless my memory deceives all the audio out from the mac is "clean", at least in the sense that it doesn't get munged by anything like kmixer.

You would have 3 choices on the current macs, analog audio out, USB to a DAC, SPIDF optical to a DAC.

Your best bet is either USB or optical dependent on your tastes. Although that said I'm not sure if all the iMacs have optical out. I know my Core Duo Mac Mini does.
post #99 of 360
I run Gentoo Linux on server, desktop and old laptop. My girlfriend runs Gentoo too
post #100 of 360
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Originally Posted by LowPhreak View Post
No, the app is for people that have legit security concerns, beyond what Winblows can protect them from.
Then get Linux and you won't need to pay a penny for better security.
post #101 of 360
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Originally Posted by thebob View Post
I think Mac is an excellent 'Audiophile' system because 'Core audio' is built right in there, at system level. Problem is getting that clean audio out.


Favorite Mac? iMac 400Mhz DV. Why? almost silent operation, it hasn't even got a fan. I'm fed up with PC's that sound like wind tunnels.
What is 'Core audio'?

You can make a PC as quiet or noisy as you like if you know what you are doing. My main PC is almost inaudible when I turn it on. Only time it becomes a bit noisier is when I play 3D games because the video card is smart enough to turn the fan up to a higher speed when gaming and lower for when not gaming.
post #102 of 360
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Originally Posted by ccotenj
as far as the cost of "mac memory"... ummm... anytime you buy a memory upgrade from the manufacturer, regardless of who it is, it's gonna cost you... dunno about other macs, but the macbook i just upgraded took plain old ddr2 memory, nothing "mac-centric" about it...
Yea, but if I am buying a pre-built system and want it have more memory than stock I don't buy from companies that try to scam me. That would be Apple. It's their loss, not mine.

Any time my BS meter starts wagging when a salesmen is trying to scam me I get quite angry and usually tell them to their face they are a BS'er and walk away. I don't take kindly to con men.
post #103 of 360
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post
yup. that's what i did as well. patiently waited (not long either) for a decent sale/rebate, and bought 2 1gig sticks... it took all of 5 minutes to put in, and only because it took me a few minutes to find my toolkit...

i agree with the "it just works" theory put forth in another post... the mac is ridiculously easy to work with...
Someone just said if I bought a Mac Mini I would have to open it up with a credit card to add more ram. How is that ridiculously easy? I build my own PC's so don't need condescending comments about how easy it is to add your own ram. We are talking about a stock config from Apple here and not me adding memory later. I can buy a pre-built PC barebones system and they don't try to scam you when you add more memory so Apple can ********** because I don't support companies with that attitude. If I want to run OSX I will find 'alternative' avenues to do it.
post #104 of 360
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Originally Posted by Gatsu View Post
Unless my memory deceives all the audio out from the mac is "clean", at least in the sense that it doesn't get munged by anything like kmixer.

You would have 3 choices on the current macs, analog audio out, USB to a DAC, SPIDF optical to a DAC.

Your best bet is either USB or optical dependent on your tastes. Although that said I'm not sure if all the iMacs have optical out. I know my Core Duo Mac Mini does.
And what if one prefers to use the superior coax digital? Using ASIO in windows to bypass Kmixer is not rocket science either.
post #105 of 360
gatticus...

1) the "mac is ridiculously easy to work with" comment wasn't directed at you, and in fact wasn't even in reference to hardware upgrades, it was in reference to usability... chill... although i personally wouldn't consider having to use a credit card as a tool as being a "complex" operation...

2) ALL companies that sell pre-built "complete" systems (not bare bones for builders) nail you on memory upgrades (or drive upgrades, etc.)... try the dell website, for one... not just the hated apple... i'm no apple fanboy, but you seem to have a serious problem with them...

geez... bit of an attitude, huh?
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