JVC DX1000 - Trying to ascertain if I would enjoy them

Hi All. My quest for a partnering can for the HD650 continues. In this thread I want to ask specifically about the JVC DX1000, and I think the best way of asking of if it may be "the one" I am after, is to list the headphones which I tried and what I felt was not ideal about them (all IMO of course).

- AKG 701 = sterile, lacked punch, soundstage too big (i.e. could sound empty)
- Denon D5000 = loads of fun but lacked the detail I love so much. I felt the details were recessed, and there was too much (or not taut enough) bass which further covered up the details
- Grado RS1 = loved the sound....punchy, dynamic, crisp. Perhaps not as much air as I could want but that wasn't the issue; comfort was. Fifteen minutes and my ears would be red and in pain!
- Audio Technica ATH-W5000 = fantastic detail, air, separation, clarity, and soundstage. My narrow dome and the W5K's fitment issues, together with a far-from-ideal seal, led to them often sounding thin and lacking bass (had to EQ them to get anywhere near sufficient bass)
- Audio Technica ATH-W11JPN = improved the above shortfalls of the W5000, but at the expense of soundstage, separation, and air. The soundstage was certainly smaller, and there was not as much detail. They were also quite warm/euphonic.
- Beyer DT880 600 ohm = he who says these are detailed have obviously never heard an Audio Technica woody . To avoid waxing lyrical (in the negative sense seeing as how popular these are) I will leave at...I hated them.

Phew...I am not sure if the above descriptions help or hurt my cause . In essence, I am looking for something with air, extension, and lots of detail. It must have enough bass to have body (not sound thin or empty) but must be controlled, and not overpowering (like the D5000 IMO). Details, in particular the midrange and HF, should be very present without being etched/sibilant/bright; but not recessed either (once again, like the D5000 IMO).

So.....the big question....might the DX1000 fit the bill?

Cheers,
X

PS. will be amped by the ASL MG Head OTL Mk III and the Gilmore Lite w/DPS.

Hi there. Thanks for the reply. This might be a good point in time to add something which I missed:

Grado GS-1000 = boring. I felt it was quite detailed, but had no dynamics. Essentially, I think it had enough sonic information to fill its soundstage (so wasn't empty like the AKG 701), but was similarly lifeless (once again, IMO).

I am surprised about the JVC and tubes comment . I thought they enjoyed tube amps as long as they were not too euphonic (as the JVC already has enough midrange coloration)

Thanks again for the input. Daleda - interesting experience you seem to have had, but were you looking for a partner or a replacement for the DX1000? What I would really want is for the cans to have a far more opened up, airy and detailed mid and upper range to the HD650 - did the DX1000 provide this in your opinion when you compared the two?

Humanflyz - I'd just rather try tackle that headphone in specific . I am also sticking to dynamic cans for the moment for a number of reasons, one of which is price. The JVC would already be pushing the limit - so $1800 new for an O2 plus another few hundred plus for a decent amp puts it out of contention.

Point taken

I guess what I can say is this: I am looking for either
- a W5000 with more bass, slightly less bright highs, and a better fit
- a Denon D5000 with better controlled bass and more detail/air (mid and highs)

I reread Skylabs comparison and am starting to think the JVC may not be right. He said "the JVC lacks the last little bit of extension and air, but the Denon may have just a tiny bit of extra sparkle."

That said, I found the D5000 to have sparkle, but not the detail (mids sounded recessed and/or overpowered by the bass). If the JVC has even deeper bass I fear it may too cover up the mids and highs.

Nope....HD650 is definitely a darker can. What I would like is something much more open and nimble and brighter (not excessively so).