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post #16 of 121
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Originally Posted by d-cee View Post
fingers crossed for a cantante analogue =)

if it has balanced ground the cantante still may not be up to the SQ of the opera though, more things affect the sound than just balanced ground

it could also have a worse DAC than the opera, maybe share the aria's DAC and no coax in, that would pretty much squeeze it in between the aria and the opera performance-wise and price-wise
I should hope so!! That way I can feel bettererer than Cantante owners! Hrmph! [kiddin, of course!]
post #17 of 121
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Originally Posted by Mindless View Post
When I said digital circuit I meant the two digital outs and the DAC.

Why dosen't it make sense? Of course it's just speculation, but I think it would fit into his list of different amplifiers perfectly.

What do you consider unnecessary features in the Opera? I am very curious about this. How can you pay too much for something that is great?

The Opera is one of the most versatile headphone amplifiers I've seen in this pricerange. You can use it for your stereo as a preamp, and as a DAC for a CD you're just using as a transport. Add to that the fact that you can plug it into your USB port in your computer and skip all the unnecessary circuitry there and just have pure music (technically). The two headphone outputs offer great versatility too. One headphone might be more suited for use with the 120ohm output, whilst another may be better with the 0ohm output.

Tell me how that is "paying $2-300 more than needed". If you feel like that, why did you buy it in the first place?
Whoa Whoa! hold on there dude! We're on the same team! Team-Meier!! remember!?!!?! Bahaha!

I LOVE THE OPERA! Trust me! It sounds awesome and NO WAY am I saying it's overpriced nor overrated! As a matter of fact I don't think it's hyped ENOUGH compared to some other amps and (lesser amps ...Achoo-Heed-ooo!!!).

What I was TRYING to say, and probably failed because I am working off of 4 hours sleep in 1 week is... Because I wanted to SQ of the Opera and the internal DAC (at the time), I was forced to get the 120 ohm jack (which I don't need) and preout option which I also don't need, I would prefer to purchase an integreted amp separately. And also the 2nd RCA jack. Due to the fact that it was part of the package. I'm not sure how much it added to the final price, but it would be awesome (and A LOT to ask for) for an a la carte selection to choose what I needed. Perhaps if I bought from Dr. Meier directly that would be the case. So can you understand my frustration if I thought (based on what the OP said) the Cantante would have offered that at a reduced price? But, once again, I tried to quell things by saying we're speculating and until Dr. Meier completes the Cantante and posts the info we don't know. So pop a xanax and some wine and relax!
post #18 of 121
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Originally Posted by Mister Crash View Post
Mindless,

I think what Morph201 is saying is that there are several features that the Opera has that may be unnecessary for some buyers. For example, the Opera has a DAC, but some of us have our own stand-alone DACs or have sources with good-quality DACs already included. Similarly, the pre-amp out would be unnecessary for someone who already has a high-quality pre-amp or integrated amp. Likewise, having two headphone jacks would be overkill for someone who only listens to one type of headphone; the other jack just wouldn't get used. However, the buyer is still charged for these things, even if he won't ever use them. It would be like living in Siberia, but buying a car that has air-conditioning as standard equipment.

That being said, you can still consider the Opera to be worth the money if the features that you do use are worth the cost. So even though the Opera has several features you might not use, the headphone amp section by itself can be good enough that it's worth the price. At the same time, though, if all you were looking for was a great headphone amp, without a pre-out or DAC or multiple inputs, you kind of wish a stripped-down version was available so you could get only the features that you want, without having to pay as much to do so.
Of course it's a waste of money to get the Opera if you have all it's different components as dedicated components. I never questioned that.

If you want a amp without all these features, there are others to look at. The Opera was aimed at a specific crowd that wants a great all-in-one at a reasonable price.

Bottom line: If you deem all it's features unnecessary, why the hell buy it? Your comment is totally devoid of sense.

Morph: OK. Glad we're clear on that point then.
post #19 of 121
Like I said, a la carte would be nice. In my case I needed a DAC (at that time) and the SQ of the Opera's amp... so it filled that void, I don't think the price would drop tremendously if the preout and 120 ohm jack were left out.. but I bet it would still buy a nice amount of CDs!
post #20 of 121
I think that the USB DAC is kind of a "give-away" - very cheap to include. The full-up DAC in the Opera is MUCH more sophisticated than in the Aria, and very likely than the one that will be in the Cantate. The Opera has a much better DAC chip, and only uses the USB chip as the USB>SPDIF converter, as opposed to USB only DACs which use that chip as the entire DAC.

The Opera also has two analog inputs and preamp outputs, too, all of which it's possible the Cantate won't have.

I also guess that it will cost right in between the Opera and the Aria, but this is just my guess. I don't think anyone knows that.
post #21 of 121
So basically a large number of people wish that the Opera had not been released with so many features and at a lower price point? Heaven forbid Mr. Meier listens to his customer base and releases such a product after all of this feedback. I agree, put the bastard on a cross. Who wants a business owner to listen to and respond to his customers' feedback?
post #22 of 121
are we sure that the cantante isn't going to replace the aria?

if i remember correctly the aria was a limited anniversary edition amp of which only 500 units were produced worldwide?

maybe the last of the 500 is being sold and so dr meier needs to release a new product to replace it?

i don't know, i haven't heard anything but that's what i remember about the aria and that's my guess.
post #23 of 121
Thread Starter 
As i understand no, Aria will still be there

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Originally Posted by d-cee View Post
are we sure that the cantante isn't going to replace the aria?

if i remember correctly the aria was a limited anniversary edition amp of which only 500 units were produced worldwide?

maybe the last of the 500 is being sold and so dr meier needs to release a new product to replace it?

i don't know, i haven't heard anything but that's what i remember about the aria and that's my guess.
post #24 of 121
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Originally Posted by lerio View Post
As i understand no, Aria will still be there
did you read that anywhere, was told by the doctor, hearsay or just guessing?
post #25 of 121
Thread Starter 
I talked with him by e-mail, and this is what i understand

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Originally Posted by d-cee View Post
did you read that anywhere, was told by the doctor, hearsay or just guessing?
post #26 of 121
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Originally Posted by d-cee View Post
did you read that anywhere, was told by the doctor, hearsay or just guessing?
AFAIC I asked Jan about the 3 amps (Cantate, Aria and Opera) as I am hesitating between the 2 that are currently available, and he didn't mention anything about the Aria being stopped soon.
post #27 of 121
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Originally Posted by lerio View Post
I talked with him by e-mail, and this is what i understand
i see, thanks

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Originally Posted by iozz View Post
AFAIC I asked Jan about the 3 amps (Cantate, Aria and Opera) as I am hesitating between the 2 that are currently available, and he didn't mention anything about the Aria being stopped soon.
oh ok, looking at the site it no longer mentions that the aria is a limited edition 5th anniversary product of only 500

i guess dr meier decided to make it a permanent part of his lineup due to its success
post #28 of 121
Pretty sure it was the Headfive, not the Aria, that was limited edition.
post #29 of 121
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Originally Posted by Skylab View Post
Pretty sure it was the Headfive, not the Aria, that was limited edition.
taken from the Internet Archive Wayback Machine

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Recently Meier-Audio celebrated its 5th anniversary. For this special occasion an amplifier was made in a limited edition of 500 pieces only. The ARIA has an improved circuit topology that results in a very detailed and natural sound. It approaches the HA-2 in sound quality but at a price that is very festive indeed. In addition to the analog inputs the ARIA also has a built-in digital-to-analog converter (DAC) and can be directly connected to an USB-port of your computer. This DAC chip results in a sound that clearly surpasses that of most soundcards.
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post #30 of 121
OK, I stand corrected.
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