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post #61 of 144
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Originally Posted by feifan View Post
Wow! I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it. I'm afraid to ask: "How?" and "Why?" and "Is this the way to pie in the sky?"
EDIT: And I forgot to add, "What is it?"

Actually, it looks really cool!
Check out the link in my sig for the path to all things good and true.
post #62 of 144
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Originally Posted by Jamfan16 View Post
Unless I missed it on the website (or from another web source), I think you should sell a balanced-to-SE 1/4" adapter separately.
Seconded, good idea.
post #63 of 144
How about an "affordable" e-stat amplifiers, just so we can some more competition in this market.
post #64 of 144
oops..
post #65 of 144

Oh HeadRoom, we beseech you, we petition you, to answer our prayers

Desktop Portable, but what source?
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showth...=249751&page=2

q:O)>

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showth...highlight=pcdp

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Originally Posted by Tungsten View Post
04-28-2006, Welcome to the club...

Great question. I asked this question too a while back. I came to my own conclusions… namely, that the player I want is no longer being manufactured today. And it probably never will be again. Sad but true, and I got over it in time, with much therapy and grief counseling

I too just wanted to buy a brand new PCDP unit, a top model, and then really look after it and make it last 10 years. To listen to CD’s with the line out, or Digital Optical line out connected to some really good DAC/AMP combo etc.,. In fact, I would buy multiple redundant units of the same model if I could find such a mythical PCDP that I actually liked…

Excuse me while I hijack this threat as a vehicle to air my grievances of PCDP's and offer up a wish so that the Gods may hear what it is we truly desire...

Oh HeadRoom, we beseech you, we petition you, to answer our prayers, to produce a CD Transport in the vein of the Desktop Line of products! Create a beautiful solid black aluminum CD player with Digital Optical and Coax outputs only! With no shock protection and no fancy useless features.

Only the 7 sacred buttons are needed!
  • Stop
  • Play
  • Pause
  • Forward
  • Back
  • Repeat
  • Mode


We can only hope.

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Originally Posted by Tungsten View Post
04-29-2006, You can tell a quality Discman just by looking at it... honestly.

Yes, you're right but I was imploring HeadRoom to create such a CD Transport. That makes it different. If anyone could do it, they could.
post #66 of 144
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Originally Posted by humanflyz View Post
How about an "affordable" e-stat amplifiers, just so we can some more competition in this market.
Yeah! An e-stat version of the Portable Desktop Amp maybe?
post #67 of 144
okay, im gonna have a go at this:

A slightly larger, non portable desktop amp. It has to have a DAC, it has to have a preamp out with volume control as well as loop out from the DAC with no volume control and maybe 3-4 inputs(with phono stage!<3). Then...add optional headroom power amp for SPEAKER performance. Oh god i would pay like 2k for that easy.
post #68 of 144
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by PITTM View Post
okay, im gonna have a go at this:

A slightly larger, non portable desktop amp. It has to have a DAC, it has to have a preamp out with volume control as well as loop out from the DAC with no volume control and maybe 3-4 inputs(with phono stage!<3). Then...add optional headroom power amp for SPEAKER performance. Oh god i would pay like 2k for that easy.
You aren't far from our thinking at the moment. One conclusion we've come to is that as headphone amps get more fully featured, they really become "Desktop Audio Control Centers." Really more like a pre-amp with a good headphone jack than a pure headphone amp. Certainly, straight up headphone amps aren't going to go away, but I think that there is a strong likelyhood of seeing more and more of the desktop pre-amps as time goes on.

On you're above comment: it sounds pretty good to me. But, really, a phono stage. Are these things really mostly used on a desktop, if so, aren't you afraid of bumping your turntable in an office-like environment? Do people really give up space next to their desks for a turntable? I've been convinced of the eventuality of a phonostage (HEY! these things take years folks; settle down), but I'm skeptical of how many we'd sell. Tell me what you think, folks, I'm all ears.

<edit> Also, I keep wondering if people wouldn't really want the DAC separate if it had significant and numerous digital input capabilities. Then just use a headphone amp with two inputs---one for the DAC and one for an analog input.
post #69 of 144
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Originally Posted by Tyll Hertsens View Post
<edit> Also, I keep wondering if people wouldn't really want the DAC separate if it had significant and numerous digital input capabilities. Then just use a headphone amp with two inputs---one for the DAC and one for an analog input.
I have been thinking about that but desktop space is tight and if you separate the DAC, wouldn't you be taking up more desk real estate? Maybe they could be stackable but use the same power supply that could be located off the desktop.
post #70 of 144

Oh, we beseech you, we petition you, to answer our prayers..

durn Tyll, I thought Tungsten had a good idea. maybe not his exact specs but especially if it was a portable in the same size of the desktop portable(I assume there is enough room for simple features). or maybe for just the standard desktop. is it that bad of an idea?

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Originally Posted by noseallinit View Post
Desktop Portable, but what source?
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showth...=249751&page=2

q:O)>

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showth...highlight=pcdp

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Originally Posted by Tungsten View Post
04-28-2006, Welcome to the club...

Great question. I asked this question too a while back. I came to my own conclusions… namely, that the player I want is no longer being manufactured today. And it probably never will be again. Sad but true, and I got over it in time, with much therapy and grief counseling

I too just wanted to buy a brand new PCDP unit, a top model, and then really look after it and make it last 10 years. To listen to CD’s with the line out, or Digital Optical line out connected to some really good DAC/AMP combo etc.,. In fact, I would buy multiple redundant units of the same model if I could find such a mythical PCDP that I actually liked…

Excuse me while I hijack this threat as a vehicle to air my grievances of PCDP's and offer up a wish so that the Gods may hear what it is we truly desire...

Oh HeadRoom, we beseech you, we petition you, to answer our prayers, to produce a CD Transport in the vein of the Desktop Line of products! Create a beautiful solid black aluminum CD player with Digital Optical and Coax outputs only! With no shock protection and no fancy useless features.

Only the 7 sacred buttons are needed!
  • Stop
  • Play
  • Pause
  • Forward
  • Back
  • Repeat
  • Mode


We can only hope.

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Originally Posted by Tungsten View Post
04-29-2006, You can tell a quality Discman just by looking at it... honestly.

Yes, you're right but I was imploring HeadRoom to create such a CD Transport. That makes it different. If anyone could do it, they could.
post #71 of 144
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by noseallinit View Post
durn Tyll, I thought Tungsten had a good idea. maybe not his exact specs but especially if it was a portable in the same size of the desktop portable(I assume there is enough room for simple features). or maybe for just the standard desktop. is it that bad of an idea?
No, it's not a bad idea. There's this terrible issue of not being able to afford to do everything. I think I'd rather see a Hard Disk based player first as you can rip stuff from a computer to the drive and then just play it off the hard drive player. Saddly, I can't do any of this in a hurry. I suppose I could say that in ten years we'll probably have a whole slew of stuff like that, it's not very satisfying though.
post #72 of 144
A Headroom tube amp based on the David Berning tube amp design (like the microZOTL) price less than 1000$ US.
post #73 of 144
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Originally Posted by Tyll Hertsens View Post
I think I'd rather see a Hard Disk based player first as you can rip stuff from a computer to the drive and then just play it off the hard drive player.
you mean like a portable DAP? if so for some reason I thought that was out of the question do to other post. a lot of interest in it. or are you speaking of something else?

I can understand the money issue. there is so much I'd like to have and from HeadRoom right now. I want one of the Desktop Line amp's(which one?) right now I can barely stand it but I am doing good just to get by each month. maybe by the time the Desktop Amp get's it revisions I can afford one. hopefully that will be soon enough for both of us. q:O)

maybe I'll start selling off all me crap and I can get down to the extremely small footprint I want to keep in this world and I can go ahead and purchase one.
post #74 of 144
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by noseallinit View Post
you mean like a portable DAP? if so for some reason I thought that was out of the question do to other post. a lot of interest in it. or are you speaking of something else?
Nothing's out of the question if you're talking about ten years down the road. The tough question is how to keep rolling out product that people will want to buy and continue to make the line look complete and cohesive.

Also, talking about the future here is a bit of a tap dance: I am looking for expressions of what people want and want to encourage folks to talk about things they'd like to see. OTOH, I really don't want to queer current sales with talk of future product, or frustrate people with timelines that are as long as the necessarily are, or give the impression that the popularity of an idea is what will make it go into production. Some products (DAP, CD player) will take significant developement effort ($) and are a bit risky in that regard. Some products (DAC) are less developement intensive, but might not fit well into the current lineup. Some product are relatively easy (phono stage) but might not sell well. And all the while, every time we release a product it has to make sense in the contex of the rest of the line.

At the moment we're focussing on taking the final steps to get the new Micros and portables into the lineup. Then our speaker stands and class-D amps will come out. At that point, we've got a pretty full-on solution for the desktop environment in terms of the pre-amp and backend of the system. The problem is that we really can't overly rely on sales of a full-blown system on people's desktop. While we think it will sell quite well, we have to continue service all our potential customers, so we do this round-robin thing where we kind of rotate between high-end, virsatile perfomance desktop, and portable listening applications. My belief is that we need to crank out a couple of killer headphone amps for the purist blood out there. (The HA-2 replacement amp is one, the other I can't talk about, but is at least 1 1/2 years away.) Then do some work on the small portable front. Then comeback to the desktop environment. Of course, it doesn't really happen as linearly as that, but you get the idea.

So sorry for this long post that doesn't really say much. I told you that I've got to tap dance a bit here. But just because I can't say too much too strongly, or that there might be apparent contradictions in what I say, doesn't mean I'm not listening very intently or trying to tell you as much as I can. It's just that I'm not entirely sure of what's going to happen (in part because your comments here effect and change what we think), and gets a bit befuddled due to the need for some confidentiality. I can tell you I'm being as honest as I can at the moment that I'm speaking, but it's just honest speculation for the most part.
post #75 of 144
I'm all excited! it get's me all worked up hearing talk about HeadRoom products. q:O)

edit: would there be a beat up, looks like it's been through the mill, fully pimped out desktop out there that's not getting any use that is just dying for a new home?
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