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I've been looking at those 5D II's, but the Nikon D600 really looks good.  It may become my first Nikon DSLR body..

 

The Camera Store Hands-On Review

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IosQ4xCJBB0

 

DxO (for DxO believers)

http://fstoppers.com/nikon-compared-to-canon-dxo-mark-best-digital-camera

post #2237 of 2631

not that i'm looking to upgrade bodies anytime soon, but kinda crazy how 5DmIII has sold on Adorama and Beach camera (via their store on ebay) for $2750, $2800  no rebates, body only.   Perhaps within a few months it'll be down to $2500 and the 5DII will be less than $1300 new?  With the specs of the 6D not being overwhelming, It should fall under $2000 soon after launch as well.  I think my plan is to upgrade to the 5DIII in about 2 years

post #2238 of 2631

So I sort of got suckered into going to a "Pumpkin Festival" in a few weeks.  It's an evening event where thousands of jack-o-lanterns are lit.  To make the best of a bad situation, I'm planning on taking my camera with me.

 

As I've mentioned before, I 'm pretty new to flash photography so I'm looking on for some pointers on how to diffuse flash lighting at night outdoors.  The last event I did under these conditions, I just fitted an Omnibounce and lifted the head a bit.  I was pretty pleased with the results and, in fact, a couple of the images are going to be used in ads and press releases.  However, I know this set-up isn't really ideal or being used as intended so any advice would be welcome.  It has to be fairly portable as this is really a social gathering and photography won't be my main focus.  I'm thinking maybe just a bounce card will be the best option.

 

For reference, I'm using a 430EXII so not super powerful.


Edited by leftnose - 9/28/12 at 8:25am
post #2239 of 2631

Wow, outdoors, that's tricky.

 

I think first line of business is to make the light source as large as practical. A 4x6 bounce card may work, but that's a lot of power lost to the sky and we want to minimize power loss as much as possible. Other options include portable softboxes that attach directly to the flash head.

 

Next, try to get the flash away from the camera, either via wireless triggering or via an off shoe cable. You can position the flash using your free hand (like what Zach Arias did here: http://strobist.blogspot.com/2012/07/two-worlds-collide-zack-arias-on.html ), or attach the flash to an extending handle or flash bracket to give you better height/distance.

 

Or if the shoot is just for leisure skip the fancy brackets and go handheld like Zach.

post #2240 of 2631
Many of the famed devices are quite expensive. The Gary Fong lightspheres are > $150, and the ColorRight FlashRight or the new LumiQuest are nice but $$. Big bouncecards tilted a bit to minimize loss to sky would be lightest and cheapest. One can even make one with white paper/board/leather, etc. Or, you can be the geek at the meeting with the milk jug diffusor (far right of photo). That'll light up the whole area if you want, or you can line the top and back with aluminum foil if you want more directional light. Cheap DIY Light Modifiers
post #2241 of 2631

Thanks for the comments.  I noticed this was on sale at Amazon so I picked one up:

 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00722Y9G0/ref=ox_ya_os_product

 

Figured it wasn't too large an investment and I'll play with it a bit before the event.  I'm thinking I may modify it a bit and attach some wire to the back of it so I can curve it forward so less light is lost to the sky.

 

If this doesn't work out I'm thinking of one of these:

 

http://www.dembflashproducts.com/

 

which I like because they're hinged and can be pushed over the top of the flash again minimizing light lost to the sky.


Edited by leftnose - 9/30/12 at 4:57pm
post #2242 of 2631

So I received the above yesterday and ran a few very informal tests.  It seems to work pretty well.  It is flexible enough that you can bend it down to curve over the lens and you can mount it slightly at an angle so it tips forward over the lens.  Doing both of these really cut down on light lost to the sky.  In fact, you can go too far and completely cut off a ceiling bounce indoors.  Seems to have definitely been worth the $9.00!

 

Once I have some suitable pics, I'll be sure to post them.

post #2243 of 2631

Coincidentally, I was also out shooting at night with flash handheld. I wasn't using any diffusers, just plain flash head set to 24mm position and gelled orange. 600EX-RT handheld on my left hand, triggered by ST-E2 (can't find that darned ST-E3RT anywhere right now):

 

post #2244 of 2631

B&H has the wireless trigger in stock http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/847531-REG/Canon_5743B002_ST_E3_RT_Speedlite_Transmitter.html and they ship internationally.  Though, with the extra shipping costs and import duties, I'm not sure if you want to spend that premium.  They're closed for some Jewish holiday right now as well.

post #2245 of 2631
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B&H has the wireless trigger in stock http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/847531-REG/Canon_5743B002_ST_E3_RT_Speedlite_Transmitter.html and they ship internationally.  Though, with the extra shipping costs and import duties, I'm not sure if you want to spend that premium.  They're closed for some Jewish holiday right now as well.

 

I bought the new YongNuo YN-622C wireless E-TTL radio transceivers and am quite happy with the results.  Most of all, there does not seem to be any "issues" or "quirks" that most of these economy triggers seem to have.  $90-100 for TWO of these is quite a bit more affordable than the Canon ST-E3 RT..

 

http://thephotogadget.com/en/content/yongnuo-yn-622-wireless-ttl-flash-trigger

post #2246 of 2631

Interesting!  It looks like you can mount a flash on top of the trigger that's mounted to the camera?  A pair of these, my 430 EX II and a 270 EX II for the camera might make a nice, super portable kit.

post #2247 of 2631

Those look pretty good. Yongnuo seems to be making a name for themselves these days; feature-wise, they look pretty good if you're starting fresh, and AA batteries!! That's a major plus point in my book, I really hate triggers that use some odd battery type that isn't easily available.

 

But they're not for me though, I'm already heavily invested in the Canon wireless system now (having three 600EX-RTs), plus I really like their Group system. It suits my flash setup and metering workflow perfectly.

post #2248 of 2631
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Interesting!  It looks like you can mount a flash on top of the trigger that's mounted to the camera?  A pair of these, my 430 EX II and a 270 EX II for the camera might make a nice, super portable kit.

Yup, unlike most other Chinese triggers, the hotshoe on top of trigger is active and E-TTL passthrough.  However, I don't really like to use on-camera flash, so I bought Four of them, so I can trigger three off-camera flashes with various light modifiers, i.e. one key light with say portable Lumodi beauty dish, one to the side for fill, then third as kicker/Rim, all with E-TTL ratios control!  Man, a bona-fide full-function portable studio on such low budget.  Love it!

post #2249 of 2631
Yeah, I'm thinking even more portable than that. Like hand holding the 430 with a big soft box or bounce card off to the side and using the 270 with some sort of a diffuser for fill.
post #2250 of 2631

E-TTL (or whatever they call the communication system between the body and the canon flashes) has very limited range.  Its better to buy triggers that use radio signals.  Cactus V5's come to mind, 50 bucks used for a set.

 

Edit:  Oh, those Yongnuo's are new.  Cool stuff.  I'd personally wait for a review, Yongnuo can be hit or miss IMO.  But cool nonethless, even though I never shoot E-TTL off shoe, haha.


Edited by otherlives - 10/8/12 at 6:20pm
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