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post #1066 of 3158
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Originally Posted by SemiAudiophile View Post
how much do you guys think it will cost to build btw?
If you even need to ask, you should consider cheaper projects!
post #1067 of 3158
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Originally Posted by SemiAudiophile View Post
awesome thanks. time to save some money and find someone to build it for me.

how much do you guys think it will cost to build btw? i wish i had the electronic/soldering skills to build it myself.
if you can be resourceful a passive ground 2 channel with case can be built for about 200$. Or at least that's what the estimation for my build has been..but then again don't think I will build it cause of time constraints.
post #1068 of 3158
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Originally Posted by sachu View Post
if you have connections..and be resourceful you can build a passive 2 channel with case for about 200$. Or at least that's what the estimation for my build has been..but then again don't think I will build it cause of time constraints.
Surely that is a typo. $200 is not even close.

Using Glass Jar Audio's kit prices, the S22 power supply alone is $104, and extrapolating down from a 3-channel B22 kit, 2 channels will cost you at least $184.

That is $288 with no volume control, no casework, no connectors, no wire, no labor......
post #1069 of 3158
Just making sure my multimeter's not going crazy with the 1N5291...
LL
post #1070 of 3158
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Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
Surely that is a typo. $200 is not even close.

Using Glass Jar Audio's kit prices, the S22 power supply alone is $104, and extrapolating down from a 3-channel B22 kit, 2 channels will cost you at least $184.

That is $288 with no volume control, no casework, no connectors, no wire, no labor......
No its not a typo..If you are resourceful you can build it for 200$ everything included. Well only way to convince everyone would be to build it..and since i just placed an order to replinish my solder supplies I might just as well.
post #1071 of 3158
I'm sure it could be done, but I would NOT be happy with the corners that would have to cut.

Saying that, I would love to see your BOM.
post #1072 of 3158
It's clearly using surplus/free/leftover parts at that price which while neat is completely disingenuous. Just the pcb's, which if you're going to call it a beta22 you have to use, will cost you $50 shipped. Heck, I often feel that people quoting Jeff's kit prices are leaving themselves open to economic shock when they try to actually build the thing.

It has nothing to do with resourceful sachu, just reality. I have a drawer full of beta22 parts, boards, etc, should I claim I can build one for free?
post #1073 of 3158
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Originally Posted by n_maher View Post
It's clearly using surplus/free/leftover parts at that price which while neat is completely disingenuous. Just the pcb's, which if you're going to call it a beta22 you have to use, will cost you $50 shipped. Heck, I often feel that people quoting Jeff's kit prices are leaving themselves open to economic shock when they try to actually build the thing.

It has nothing to do with resourceful sachu, just reality. I have a drawer full of beta22 parts, boards, etc, should I claim I can build one for free?
Nate,

While am using surplus parts for my transformer and case the rest all were bought. Maybe not bought here in the US but bought nonetheless specifically for the B22. It wasn't easy though., I have had to wait for 6 months for the parts to get to me which probably negates the whole idea of getting them cheaply.

In any case already having the EHHA I don't feel like building the B22 all that much considering the labor that goes into it and also the fact that for me the EHHA outperforms the B22 quite handily.

Edit: And I don't think calling it disingenuous is right. All I said was it can be built for that price.
post #1074 of 3158
What I find disingenuous is that it was implied (at least the way I read your initial post) that all that was required was a little resourcefulness. If 99% of the population is not going to have access to the resources no amount of drive or desire is going to change that. So the fact remains that for most folks a two-channel build, even using some surplus and free parts, is going to run double (or more) than your estimate.

Don't get me wrong, it's great that you're able to do it so cheaply, but it's likely a feat that cannot be duplicated. I have a pretty extensive list of connections and I know I couldn't pull it off. You have to realize that people around here are simply going to look at that number and start parroting it around the various forums. Before you know it someone will ask "What's the best $200 amp" and someone will answer the beta22 and reference you as the source of the information.
post #1075 of 3158
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Originally Posted by n_maher View Post
What I find disingenuous is that it was implied (at least the way I read your initial post) that all that was required was a little resourcefulness. If 99% of the population is not going to have access to the resources no amount of drive or desire is going to change that. So the fact remains that for most folks a two-channel build, even using some surplus and free parts, is going to run double (or more) than your estimate.

Don't get me wrong, it's great that you're able to do it so cheaply, but it's likely a feat that cannot be duplicated. I have a pretty extensive list of connections and I know I couldn't pull it off. You have to realize that people around here are simply going to look at that number and start parroting it around the various forums. Before you know it someone will ask "What's the best $200 amp" and someone will answer the beta22 and reference you as the source of the information.


Right..i understand now.
Just to make it clear here..I did get most of the parts for a planned balanced 4 channel B22 , dual S22 build from India from the store where I used to buy my DIY supplies for many years prior to me arriving here in the US. The total cost for about 80% of the BOM components came up to about 70$.
If I am pressed for time (and cause of the EHHA) I might end up selling these components for the same price I got them for so someone else can benefit from this. I know Chris has first dibs on this already. It has taken me 6 months to get them cause of variosu concerns the people who brought hem over had (customs and **** and all and cause all my friends are brown skinned and come from the east might have something to do with it )

In any case this gives you an idea as to how cheap it must be for companies getting their stuff manufactured in China must be.
post #1076 of 3158
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Originally Posted by ShinyFalcon View Post
Just making sure my multimeter's not going crazy with the 1N5291...
I don't know what you're asking but a CRD is not a regular diode and cannot be tested like one with a DMM.
post #1077 of 3158
what's the average build time to build a B22 from scratch? month? 2 months? i'm guessing most of the time would be spent waiting on supplies to come in like enclosures and stuff? based on hours, would it be possible to build one within 50 hours?
post #1078 of 3158
50 hours is certainly doable. Again, there's a big range given the number of channels, wiring scenarios, inputs/outputs, and different casework options available, but 50 hours to put a simple B22 together should be fine. (Assuming you don't make any mistakes... trouble shooting could take 50 hours in itself potentially.)
post #1079 of 3158
Me I'm thinking of building a 4 board. I'm just looking at the page count for this thread and dreading the 'research' time here - although know it will pay off.
post #1080 of 3158
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Me I'm thinking of building a 4 board. I'm just looking at the page count for this thread and dreading the 'research' time here - although know it will pay off.
U should've seen the three threads at headwize O.O
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