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post #451 of 771
Great Analogy !!!
post #452 of 771
my hotusb1 is still up for sale on ebay, i reduced the price to $30 shipped. anyone interested?
Portable Headphone Dac by (Hotaudio) - eBay (item 250387246376 end time Mar-13-09 05:08:33 PDT)
post #453 of 771
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Originally Posted by drgameboy View Post
my hotusb1 is still up for sale on ebay, i reduced the price to $30 shipped. anyone interested?
Portable Headphone Dac by (Hotaudio) - eBay (item 250387246376 end time Mar-13-09 05:08:33 PDT)
Saw this - went to buy it, already sold

Don't really need one, but at $30 couldn't stop myself.
post #454 of 771

Using Mark VII (bit perfect) as DAC/preamp?

I just got Mark VII less than a week and still enjoy it a lot. However, I am thinking about next step with DT 880 (not yet arrived) ...

Mark VII (DAC/amp) has more power than HOTUSB1. I wonder if it is possible to use it as DAC/preamp and then some tube amp (e.g. LD MK III) to play with the sound change. Just heard many good report on 880 and tube amp. Would it be bad idea with this configuration?

Thanks!
post #455 of 771
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Originally Posted by dukja View Post
I just got Mark VII less than a week and still enjoy it a lot. However, I am thinking about next step with DT 880 (not yet arrived) ...

Mark VII (DAC/amp) has more power than HOTUSB1. I wonder if it is possible to use it as DAC/preamp and then some tube amp (e.g. LD MK III) to play with the sound change. Just heard many good report on 880 and tube amp. Would it be bad idea with this configuration?

Thanks!
Yes you can do that.
Not a problem at all.
In fact with the volume control of the MARK VII you can find the tube amps' "sweet spot"
post #456 of 771
I got my HotUSB1 today here at work. I want to go home and try it out from my laptop first, I don't think its fair to say much just yet because I am listening from my work computer which is pretty old and crappy.
post #457 of 771
The computer doesn't matter so much as the headphones do...

Unless it's like a 486 or 386 or something super old
post #458 of 771
ok. I'll update you guys later after I listen to some more music and get some more burn in time. Sound quality might improve with more burn in, but I don't think sound volume will which seems to be very similar to my ipod. or will it? Im listening to my computer here at work at full volume and its pretty close to my ipod at full volume. I was kind of hoping it'd be louder than my ipod.
post #459 of 771
Well the HOTUSB1 is about the same volume as a regular sound card, which should be a bit louder then an ipod, but I don't have an ipod, so I really don't know how loud one is...

As far as will it get louder with burn in...

Well the dynamics will improve as well as it will "open-up" somewhat and this will give the "perception" that it sounds a bit louder, but the overall volume won't really change...

If you want more power then the MARK IV would have been a better choice for you, or maybe the addition of an headphone amplifier may also be a good option, as the HOTUSB1 is a very good front-end for any amp....

But give it a while and let it work in a bit...

It will take a while for it to come to life...
post #460 of 771
well its still pretty premature to make any assumptions. I have about 3 hours on these now, I'll give an update as things go along.

One thing I am noticing is that even only with 3 hours burn in, the bass has gotten closer to the level of bass I was getting through my ipod on the 'electronic' EQ setting with trance. Keep it comin!
post #461 of 771
lol, yes....
post #462 of 771
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Originally Posted by mango salsa View Post
well its still pretty premature to make any assumptions. I have about 3 hours on these now, I'll give an update as things go along.

One thing I am noticing is that even only with 3 hours burn in, the bass has gotten closer to the level of bass I was getting through my ipod on the 'electronic' EQ setting with trance. Keep it comin!

Me and my dt 770/80s are very interested in how things turn out on this. I'm about to make an order with Dave... I'm not volume crazy, so I'm thinking of a non-buffered dac like the destroyer, but you sound a little uncertain on the volume you get with the non-buffered dac on the beyers...?
post #463 of 771
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Originally Posted by appositive View Post
Me and my dt 770/80s are very interested in how things turn out on this. I'm about to make an order with Dave... I'm not volume crazy, so I'm thinking of a non-buffered dac like the destroyer, but you sound a little uncertain on the volume you get with the non-buffered dac on the beyers...?

It's not purely about volume. While 2200s were sufficiently loud (more or less) for everything but the quietest recordings, they just weren't getting enough current to really sound good. Adding the Raging Moose really tightened up the bass and helped with instrument definition/separation. A buffered output might help in that regard.


In other news, my dac straight got in today. It's about the length of the raging moose, feels/looks solid. The RCA outs are every so slightly close together--my blue jeans cable is rubbing a bit. Not a problem, just worth noting if you have particularly thick connectors on your RCA cable. The included USB cable is a bit shorter than the one that came with the USB1--luckily, I have a longer cable that will fit the bill. Once I find my camera (my room is a mess of empty Scotch bottles and half packed bags, much to the chagrin of swmbo) I'll try to get some pictures up of all three.

Initial impressions? It sounds good. I'll hold off on A/Bing or anything until I've got more hours on it, obviously, but out of the box it's definitely listenable. I'd make a gut call that it's more detailed at the extremes than the USB1, but I'm also using a much better cable. That's not to start a cable debate, but I was using a RadioShack-Fi mini to RCA. All three cables together don't equal one of the BJC ones.

More as I listen. Mahalo.


Edit/Update:

Burn in has been going on for almost seven hours now--sometime in there all traces of harshness has disappeared. Out of the box the whole spectrum was a bit grainy (most notable on guitar solos), after an hour or so it calmed down but I could still hear it mostly up top. Now, as far as I can hear, it's entirely gone.

A/Bs still to come.

Edit/Update 2:

The Dac Straight has about 17 hours on it, no real noticeable change from last check. I feel certain that this setup is better than the one I was using with the USB1. I'm going to be away for a few days, so no extra burn in/notes until I get back.

I hate work/real life getting in the way of things.
post #464 of 771
I recently took delivery of a Hotaudio DAC Straight and thought I would post some of my opinions on here for anyone interested.

I waited over 3 weeks for this DAC to arrive (thank you UK customs) and I also had to pay a customs charge for the privilege. Also worth mentioning is that this DAC replaced a 2008 Valab which sounded amazing. Despite all this, this DAC has still impressed me massively!

I've been listening to it for four or five days now, and the overall sound would probably be best described as super-clear and detailed with a very neutral signature that has a touch of warmth. It sounds really nice.

It hasn't got the warm, laid-back tone of the Valab, but that was a NOS DAC, and I would bet most people would describe the DAC Straight as imparting less of it's own flavour to the sound, compared to the Valab.

Other DACs that I have had at various points in the past are the Beresford (a couple of years ago so not the latest version. I sent this back as I didn't like the sound at all). A Moodlab concept (I still have this NOS DAC and again, the Straight is less warm and thick without the slightly-exaggerated bottom end the Moodlab has. I do, however, love the Moodlab!) A Hotaudio USB1 (sold this a while back because at the time I needed more connections than USB but from memory, I would say the DAC Straight has a similar neutral tone as the USB1 but is more detailed and slightly more 'lush' sounding. Again, this is from memory).

I had a couple of worries about the DAC Straight before it arrived but it turned out I was worrying for nothing. First was the fact the DAC Straight is USB powered. I figured this would be noisy. It's not. It's black-silent even when you turn the amp up. Also, I wondered if the USB power would mean the DAC does not go loud enough due to having limited power. The DAC doesn't have loads and loads of gain, but definately goes plenty loud enough. Also, there's not a hint of distortion anywhere. I guess you could take this for granted but this turned out to be the Valab's downfall..

My other main worry was that it wouldn't live up to the Valab it replaced in terms of sound quality. In truth, it's not the fairest comparison because the Valab has more input connectivity and is NOS, wheras the DAC Straight is USB only and is an oversampling unit. I guess it's an apples-to-oranges comparison but for what it's worth, I like the sound of this DAC as much as I liked the Valab's sound. Obviously though, some people prefer one kind of sound over the other.

Lastly, I was worried that this DAC might be too 'digital' sounding. I am used to, and really like, the NOS sound and I'm using a tripath amp and single driver speakers (fostex fe126e drivers in bass reflex cabs) so everything is very revealing as it is. This isn't a problem at all as it turns out. The unit is very revealing and detailed but it errs slightly on the warm side of detailed if that makes sense. Not NOS-warm but not overly 'digital' either, in my opinion.

In summary then, this DAC sounds fantastic. Clear, detailed, not-at-all-unpleasantly digital, and in many ways just disappears in the system without drawing attention to itself.

I would totally recommend this unit to anyone who just needs a damn good USB DAC without any headphone outputs. Another great DAC Dave!

By the way, the communication and service from Dave at Hotaudio has been great. Top-flight in fact, even with me nagging him about it taking ages to get here
post #465 of 771
Does anyone know if the DAC Destroyer would be a good match for my Little Dot I+ ?

I've been shopping around for a DAC and most are either out of my budget or they're a lesser known brand from China/HK, the latter being something i'd like to avoid for now. I was thinking of getting a high end soundcard instead since they're cheaper in AUS and easier to find, but i dunno, damn this HiFi stuff is really confusing lol.
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