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Federer vs. Nadal - Sunday - Grass Edition

post #1 of 92
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Heads up tennis fans. Set your alarm and skip church.

This one's going to be big.

I've got Nadal in four. I'll be rooting for Fed. I would so love to see a grand slam winner.
post #2 of 92
Hell yeah, I'll be watching. And after the match, I'm sure I'll go out, whack at my tennis ball zealously, and try to mimick the masters. I'll be rooting for Federer as well!
post #3 of 92
I can't wait for this match. I will be going for Federer as well. I grew up watching Sampras and Agassi, but Federer is the best I have seen and is my favorite to watch. Nadal is the best on clay, so this should be a great match.
post #4 of 92
I'll be rooting for Federer as well. I think he will pull it off this time. We will be in for a tight one (hopefully) as this French Open, hasn't had many close, long matches.

The womens finals, and semi's were done in a flash, as were the mens Semi's and Quarters (I guess you get that, when Henin, Federer and Nadal are a notch above anyone else)
post #5 of 92
Federer's gotta beat Nadal at the French eventually. If not I don't care how many Grand Slams he wins, people will always say he couldn't beat Nadal, and thus Never be accepted as the greatest ever. Which is why I'm picking Federer. I still don't think he's quite as good as Sampras was in his prime, but he'll get there, no doubt in my mind. Then again I couldn't stand Sampras, but as a Federer fan he has to win the French and Nadal more specifically.
post #6 of 92
Federer did win their last meeting together on clay, but tomorrow is the one that matters for history's sake.
post #7 of 92
Going to be great... Rooting for Fed for the first time ever, respect him but I can't say I'm a fan. I would like to see him get a grand slam though. What a great rivalry too. I don't think Federer can beat Nadal in a baseline slugfest. That backhand side is just too weak. Hes going to have to win some points at the net to stand a chance.

What do you guys think?
post #8 of 92
Man, what a supreme physical specimen Nadal is on the clay! Looks like Raffa remains undefeated.
post #9 of 92
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^ No doubt, as if God wanted to create the perfect red dirt player and beamed Nadal down to Earth.

That said, Fed didn't bring his A game today. He sprayed shots everywhere. It doesn't matter the strategy if you can't execute. Sometimes an athletes invests so much in a moment that when it finally comes, a strange mental tick jumps in the brain. Fed's wiring didn't seem quite right today.

Not that he could beat Nadal on clay with his A game though. Rafael has to be on the short list of best big point players today. The kid plays above his years.
post #10 of 92
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Fed's wiring didn't seem quite right today.
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Humm I saw the first set and I left to do other things (place an order for a new HD-25 cable... ). I know it's easy to say now but it looked that it was going to be one to these bad days....

Amicalement.

PS.

Sorry for you Viro...
post #11 of 92
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Originally Posted by Genetic View Post
Sorry for you Viro...
Thanks, I'm sure I'll survive. Genetic knows how much I want to see a grand slam in my lifetime. Fed has the best chance I can remember. Agassi maybe during his prime could of pulled one off, but his Wimbeldon win had as much luck with the draw as skill to it. He did get one for his career. Lendl never could break through on grass, and we all know about Pistol Pete and the red stuff. Wilander was a flash in the pan, and on and on and on....

Curse you clay and grass. Curse you!
post #12 of 92
I dont think Federer was ever on his "A game" this whole championship. His semi-final match was poor, and the quarters was nothing too great. So from there, you knew if he stayed as he was playing, it would not turn out well. And that was the case.

To me, he seemed like he did not "want" to move around, and his shots were just not landing. If we were watching the US open or Wimbledon, the same result would happen, Federer losing.

We can all agree, whoever plays the best between these two, wins. And once again, Nadal players better, and we saw Federer at his lowest. So, now we hope, one year Nadel will play poor, resulting in a win for Federer.

I was very surprised at how negative John MaCanroe (spelling) was, when talking about how "Federer's window is running out". No major injuries, in supreme shape. Last time I checked, Aggasi, Sampras, and other greats, one majors in their 30's. He has atleast 4 more years before any of that would come into question. Prime age for almost any sport (tennis, baseball, hockey, basketball) is 27. The only difference between tennis and the others, is that after you hit your prime, you decline faster. Let the poor guy get into his prime, before we ask him to consider the veterans tour lol

By all means, if were talking about Laytin Hewitt, Marat Safin, then sure, bring up those situations. But John should know, if your the best (like he himself was) your window is almost 4-6 years larger, then those who are "average" at that high level. Aside from injuries of course
post #13 of 92
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Originally Posted by TopShelf View Post
He has atleast 4 more years before any of that would come into question. Prime age for almost any sport (tennis, baseball, hockey, basketball) is 27. The only difference between tennis and the others, is that after you hit your prime, you decline faster. Let the poor guy get into his prime, before we ask him to consider the veterans tour lol
(Bold are mine)

I used to think that way about tennis (the +/- 27 prime time) but we should consider that the average tennis pro has been on much longer seasons than the other sports. Even if the other sports are now also trainning on a more extended period, tennis is probably eating it's athletes alive....

Can Roger improves his game? Yes he sure do. But we have to consider that the longer he takes to achieved that, he expose himself to the «birth» of a new specific surface specialist (as Nadal is).

In that regard «Big Mac» has a point.

Amicalement
post #14 of 92
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Originally Posted by TopShelf View Post
Let the poor guy get into his prime, before we ask him to consider the veterans tour
Boy if you think Fed isn't in his prime, I don't know what you've been watching the last 2.5 years. Agassi took a-lot of breaks to last so long. Any by 27/28 Sampras was already starting downhill.

Someone would be stupid to think that Fed can't dig up more slams as he gets older. But as far as a legitimate chance to win four in one year or even the French, the guy is on the clock.

And like Genetic said above me, unless Nadal pulls a Capriati, he ain't going anywhere. And if you think Fed can get better, what about that guy who is only 21.

I checked just to make sure my memory wasn't fuzzy...

Pete Sampras

Slams
Age 19 - 23: 5
Age 24 - 27: 6
Age 28 - 31: 3

Four out of his last five were Wimbledon's which are easier on the body. His last was at 31 in the 2002 Open where he played Agassi. If you watched that match, you might recall that Andre and Pete both looked gassed after the first set. Agassi has played the match of his life the day before to take out Hewitt and Pete was lucky with the draw and imo Early 00 tennis was not very deep as far as great players were concerned.
post #15 of 92
I went to Floridia meet and missed the championship. I still don't think Fed will get over the hump and beat Nadal. Let's face it, beside Borg...Nadal is the greatest clay court player the world has ever seen. He is stronger, and move better than Fed. I think Nadal will be unstoppable once he improves his serve and net game.

BTW, Did any of you get sick of watching Roddick Lacoste commercial? I did.
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