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post #166 of 284
I bet if patrick82 went to a live gig he would find things to point out which made the experience sound artificial.

God bless you patrick82.

God help you patrick82.

God help _anyone_ you have to deal with in day to day life patrick82.
post #167 of 284
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Originally Posted by zheka View Post
There is perfect tool for resolving this kind of debates - http://www.libinst.com/Audio%20DiffMaker.htm

With this tool you can record analog output of your PC playing both flac and wave files and then compare recordings

I did just that. As expected, analog output from flac and wave files is identical.

You can download “dyf” file of this little project at http://repo.tap.tv:9005/flac_vs_wave.dyf
Excellent tool - thanks
post #168 of 284
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Turned off Cool & Quiet

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Originally Posted by alfie View Post
Yes it was too much, but see... Pactrick needs answers and maybe, switching c&q could seriously make his flacs sound better. You never know what his ears hears for true, so let him try while crossing our fingers
Cool & Quiet only went down to 1000MHz with my AMD 3000+ CPU. I turned it off and manually underclocked to 800MHz @ 0.9625v which is the lowest setting. I heard a huge improvement in smoothness.
But now the difference between WAV and FLAC seems to be even bigger than before, I haven't confirmed it with longer testing yet.
post #169 of 284
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Originally Posted by Patrick82 View Post
Cool & Quiet only went down to 1000MHz with my AMD 3000+ CPU. I turned it off and manually underclocked to 800MHz @ 0.9625v which is the lowest setting. I heard a huge improvement in smoothness.
But now the difference between WAV and FLAC seems to be even bigger than before, I haven't confirmed it with longer testing yet.
Holy smokes, you will just not be bested when it comes to weirdness, will you?

My hat's off to you! You are without a doubt the weirdest guy I have ever encountered!

Good gawd, I wish we lived near each other, I really want to buy you a beer!
post #170 of 284
What to say, lol.
post #171 of 284
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Originally Posted by Patrick82 View Post
Cool & Quiet only went down to 1000MHz with my AMD 3000+ CPU. I turned it off and manually underclocked to 800MHz @ 0.9625v which is the lowest setting. I heard a huge improvement in smoothness.
But now the difference between WAV and FLAC seems to be even bigger than before, I haven't confirmed it with longer testing yet.
I'm very sorry my suggestion increased the problem. Now you have to live with wav, waiting for some new support-less hires music distribution format and its loseless compressed alter-ego to come out.
post #172 of 284
What's next? Putting some ERS paper around the CPU makes it sounds better?
post #173 of 284
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ERS Paper for CPU to reduce EMI reflections

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Originally Posted by Apocalypsee View Post
What's next? Putting some ERS paper around the CPU makes it sounds better?
Why wouldn't it? All components generate EMI which interfere with the other components. I changed my 1GB RAM into 512MB and it sounded worse (should have sounded better), then I found the reason, my 1GB module has a metal casing around it which keeps some of the EMI inside it. Shielding the RAM should give bigger differences because the direction of the EMI is facing the mainboard. With the CPU it's facing the side cover of the case, but the case makes some of the EMI reflect back into other components on the mainboard. So when putting a sheet of ERS Paper on the inside of the cover it should give improvements.

I have tried this with the DSP board inside Cary 303/300 and the improvements were night and day. The Cary blocks the external EMI because of the 2 metal covers (I didn't hear a difference with ERS outside the case). But inside the small case there were reflections from the CPU and other components on the DSP board. So I covered the whole inside of that case with 2 sheets of ERS.





http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazin...lpointsers.htm
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why not put the ERS paper directly inside the chassis? Much better! In fact, the DAC fell off my list of candidates for future upgrades-not bad results from a $20 sheet of paper. Next up was my tuner, which I use to listen to New-Age music on Hearts of Space on NPR . Huge gains here, too! This was really fun! Throw a sheet or two of ERS paper into your component, and feel like you just saved yourself a thousand, or two, or three thousand dollars in a major component upgrade! Man, this stuff is dangerous! It could put hundreds of American craftspeople and thousands of Chinese out of work if audiophiles started using this stuff instead of buying newer, more expensive products.
When he said $20 of ERS gives a $3000 improvement, he wasn't kidding.
post #174 of 284
I'm not against shielding, I shielded my sound card and it did makes it sounds a lot better, more analog sounding and less fatigue.I just say you go way overboard, I mean changing RAM, downclocking CPU makes better sound? Come on, you should get a new hobby
post #175 of 284
Holy smokes Patrick is there anything you WON'T try?
post #176 of 284
Best.
Trolling.
Ever.
I <3 Patrick.
post #177 of 284
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Originally Posted by lan View Post
There are other people (like me) who witness interactions amongst many things on a both macro and microscopic level.
But you should know atleast something about how computers work. All these "even the background color of my desktop changes the sound"-threads are ridiculous.
post #178 of 284
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Originally Posted by spongezone View Post
Actually, that's not entirely true. If you use digital out from the PC, then it is true, but depending on the quality of the PSU, motherboard, and sound card if using analog, you can hear hard drives spinning (electronically, not microphonically) or changes in CPU load. As previously mentioned by someone, its a common occurance in laptops.
That has nothing AT ALL to do with watts or the main power supply in any way.
post #179 of 284
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Originally Posted by morphsci View Post
Ummm ... you guys do realize that we cannot hear a digital signal, right? That the signal must be converted to analog at least once? That "perfect sound forever" was not quite right after all?
What the...I mean ... What the??

What's the point in that? We can also convert a digital image into an analog image without problems but not with audio? Ridiculous.
post #180 of 284
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Originally Posted by Redo View Post
I'm just cutting off the point that it could not have ANYTHING to do with CPU usage or RFI interference due to CPU usage (because it's all still digital at these points).
UNLESS.

Unless Patrick has a mic input open. That would mean that his obviously piss poor soundcard will output also some extra noise mixed in with the original signal. But I digress, it's more than likely the he's... imagining things.
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