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post #151 of 284
6/9/07 at 5:22am
Patrick, try this. Take some WAVs, and put them in a zip archive. Then, unzip them, and A/B with the original WAV.
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post #152 of 284
6/9/07 at 6:13am
This thread is quite funny!
Lets assume Patrick used the WAVE file as source when encoding to FLAC. In that case both files contain identical audio data (most probably a PCM stream), and playing them back should put out identical audio data.

Jitter or noise from spinning hard drives and/or other hardware might be different though. Since FLAC consume more CPU power, while WAVE need more hard drive reading.


In the end, if Patrick find WAVE to sound better then be it. Let him decode all of his FLAC files!
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post #153 of 284
6/9/07 at 7:09am
Hey guys... April 1st was soo 2 months ago. Though I'm relatively new to being an audiophile, I am well versed in being a geek.

1 = 1
0 = 0

Anything more or less than that =



Serious. I hate to get a little abrasive, but anyone who is siding with Patrick on anything, at this point, has to be a little nuts.
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post #154 of 284
6/9/07 at 9:22am
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Originally Posted by nelamvr6 View Post
As I've mentioned before, I do admire your passion. It's your complete detachment from reality that can at times be off-putting.
If a skeptic thinks his brain is a computer and he can listen to 1's and 0's, who's the one detached from reality?
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post #155 of 284
6/9/07 at 11:22am
You guys are arguing with someone who wraps his equipment with rice paper and then tops it off with something that looks like a bowling ball. He is obviously a very gullible, but very likable fellow. Let him do what he wants and just try to enjoy his quirkiness.

Although, I too am sick of hearing how bits are bits and 1=1 and 0=0 arguments. Maybe I'm as gullible as Patrick, but I have heard differences in digital transports. Is this a placebo?
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post #156 of 284
6/9/07 at 11:34am
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Maybe I'm as gullible as Patrick, but I have heard differences in digital transports. Is this a placebo?
Different transport may have different error rate & correction, so 1's and 0's don't always repeat. This is not a good example. If FLAC and wav sound different from a specific equipment it means this equipment does not decode properly one of this two file formats. The reason might be software or hardware decoder, period. To the author - have you tried converting FLAC back to wav and bit comparing both? Are there any differences? If so, switch to another FLAC compressor.
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post #157 of 284
6/9/07 at 12:56pm
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To the author - have you tried converting FLAC back to wav and bit comparing both? Are there any differences? If so, switch to another FLAC compressor.
That's what I did, all my albums were FLAC and I converted one track to WAV to make the comparison, and WAV sounded better.

FLAC and WAV are identical, it's just that FLAC uses 3% CPU when decompressing the data.
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post #158 of 284
6/9/07 at 4:14pm
Patrick, Cool'n'Quite is teh evil!!! Switch it off in your BIOS and your music will be OK: mp3 will sound as DSD!
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post #159 of 284
6/9/07 at 4:17pm
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mp3 will sound as DSD!
That's what this thread needs, more hyperbole!
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post #160 of 284
6/9/07 at 4:23pm
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That's what this thread needs, more hyperbole!
i felt as if the dt770pro's bass hit me like a train!
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post #161 of 284
6/9/07 at 4:30pm
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Originally Posted by nelamvr6 View Post
That's what this thread needs, more hyperbole!
Yes it was too much, but see... Pactrick needs answers and maybe, switching c&q could seriously make his flacs sound better. You never know what his ears hears for true, so let him try while crossing our fingers
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post #162 of 284
6/9/07 at 6:59pm
There is perfect tool for resolving this kind of debates - http://www.libinst.com/Audio%20DiffMaker.htm

With this tool you can record analog output of your PC playing both flac and wave files and then compare recordings

I did just that. As expected, analog output from flac and wave files is identical.

You can download “dyf” file of this little project at http://repo.tap.tv:9005/flac_vs_wave.dyf
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post #163 of 284
6/9/07 at 7:08pm
Wow! That is a great utility-- thanks for the link.

And the not-so-surprising results
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post #164 of 284
6/9/07 at 7:27pm
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Wow! That is a great utility-- thanks for the link.

And the not-so-surprising results
yeah, the tool is awesome.
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post #165 of 284
6/9/07 at 8:04pm
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Originally Posted by zheka View Post
There is perfect tool for resolving this kind of debates - http://www.libinst.com/Audio%20DiffMaker.htm

With this tool you can record analog output of your PC playing both flac and wave files and then compare recordings

I did just that. As expected, analog output from flac and wave files is identical.

You can download “dyf” file of this little project at http://repo.tap.tv:9005/flac_vs_wave.dyf
Hope it will end this non-sense thread
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