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post #16 of 24
I don't think Amazon launching DRM FREE lossless download service and only i heard it will be DRM FREE mp3 download service. If you buy turbo dock which connect to ipod lineout connector and it's have headphone jack. You will notice the better soundquality from lineout. Also you can buy AMPs later on and use with turbo dock(sound willbe much fuller and clean). BTW Westone 3 spec changed(it was 119db/27ohm and now is 107db/30ohm).
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Thanks Rain_uk...I didn't realize converting was that easy, since I'm just gettign started with this whole thing. I was just reading about Wavpack, which supposedly is lossless but also can be "lossy" by keeping the extra lossless codec as a separate file. Now that sounds pretty ideal, and assuming I can convert anyway I want, sounds like the way to go.

So ultimately, I guess what I am hearing after all this is that it comes down to compatibility with Musiclink, or finding if there is another "equivalent" way to do this, since the Kenwood without and certainly with will probably sound great, and I think it is a given that the Imod does.

I am not into the Kenwood lossless, but if I can sink the Kenwood with the Acura in a truly equivalent way, sounds like the best way to go. And if I can't, then it sounds like the only option is the Ipod or Imod. And either way, just figure out what lossless format I want to download in, and use a conversion program like you said.

I am really excited to hear that Amazon is going to be offering DRM-free lossless, cause I just can't figure why anyone would want to build an archive library that is neither lossless nor DRM-free.

Thanks for all your help everyone, and if I am wrong about any of this...please tell me!
post #17 of 24
Westone 3 at 107dB/SPL is fantastic news for Kenwood possessors.
post #18 of 24
Yes it's great, too bad the release date got pushed waaayyyy back.
post #19 of 24
Will atrio m5's hiss with the kenwood? And btw still waiting for a kenwood hd30gb9 review
post #20 of 24
The Atrio M5 will hiss slighly, but nothing that will bother you when the player is on.
I've owned a pair of canalphones that is as equally sensitive as the M5: the Sennheiser CX300, but they were perfectly tolerable in terms of hiss.
Most hissy iems I've ever tried with the HD20GA7 are the d-JAYS and the Shure E500. They are ok while walking, but the hiss can be bothering if you are in a quite environment, listening to quite music.
post #21 of 24
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-Like to use Itunes due to selection, especially now that DRM free is starting to be available. Have a lot of songs on Itunes that I plan to convert to DRM-free/lossless so I can truly enjoy them as much as my CD library.
Am I reading this correctly? That you plan to convert your 128kb AAC-DRM files to lossless? Other than stripping the DRM, there really isn't any point. Converting a lossy file to a lossless file just means you have a perfect copy of an imperfect copy, you cannot restore quality. Those tracks from itunes are going to sound the same or worse if you transcode, they can't sound better.


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4) Like the idea of maximum compatibility with the acura (steering wheel controls, head unit display etc.). I do plan to upgrade the Acura with very good speakers, amp, and crossover, but would rather not replace the headunit or loose the steering remote controls.
Also, having done a bunch of car stereo stuff myself... I would really suggest swapping out the HU if you are really planning on a full-fledged system. You can get HU that can integrate with ipods (or kenwoods) and that still work with the steering wheel controls. If you're planning on making it a really nice system, don't skimp on the HU. You want clean, powerful signals to hit your amps, not tapped stock lines.
post #22 of 24
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Will atrio m5's hiss with the kenwood? And btw still waiting for a kenwood hd30gb9 review
Got my M5's on Monday. I don't hear any hiss w/ my HD30GB9.
I don't hear hiss w/ any of my cans.

Could be I don't have the world's best ears, though.
Too many Black Sabbath concerts in my misguided youth, you see.
post #23 of 24
ah nice! I'd like to hear everything about this match, because I will likely be buying them both too. I want to know everything mids, bass, highs, harshness, punch, detail, clarity, smoothness, analytical/musical. etc
post #24 of 24
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Originally Posted by StevenBrouwer View Post
ah nice! I'd like to hear everything about this match, because I will likely be buying them both too. I want to know everything mids, bass, highs, harshness, punch, detail, clarity, smoothness, analytical/musical. etc
Mids: right where they belong: neither lost in nor overpowering the highs or lows.

Bass: this is the M5's forte: extremely rich bass for an IEM. Bold but not dark or muddy. Any more bass and they could almost be considered "basshead" but no; just right.

Highs: I can tell you that they are not sibilant or tinny (as My Shure E3c's sound compared to the M5; the e3c's sound just horrible compared to the M5). Nor do you have to reach for them.

Harshness: never. These are the opposite of harsh. Mellow but not subdued.

Punch: Not sure what this term really means.

Detail: very good detail. You will probably have to raise your minimum bitrate requirements. I did.

Clarity: nice and clear. Crystal. I do not hear the hiss that others seem to.

Smooth: Very silky smooth. This is one of the top 1 or 2 adjectives to describe this combo: SMOOTH.

Analytical/Musical: I would say the scales tip decidedly towards musical. I can listen to this setup for 5-6 hours with no fatigue whatsoever.

M5 is also very good at minimizing microphonics but is not as good at isolation (Black Foamies), not bad, just not as good as the E3c's. I think some sound actually transmits through the shell but it is of very little concern as the difference is minimal. Edit: I tried them tonight with the M5's NOT going up and over the ear (same way that I listen to the E3c's) and the isolation was every bit as good that way. Maybe I have funny shaped ears.

They match the listening pleasure that I get with my Grado's in an IEM but with better bass.

My search is over (for now ):
Kenwood / iGrado's at home
Kenwood / M5's portable.
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