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post #61 of 247
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Originally Posted by calaf View Post
I don't see any advantage nor any risk, if my model of how the two jacks are wired is right. But, as I said, I haven't even opened the amp. You should really discuss your idea with Jan.
Thanks for the reply to my speculative proposition...

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post #62 of 247
I'm thinking of getting an Opera and have some questions regarding the Opera DAC:

1) How noticible is the clicking between tracks. I don't want to spend this much money and be disappointed.

2) For those that have the Opera analog, does the LED light blink all the time since there is no digital input (like I've hear the regular Opera does without a digital source lock), or is the LED deactivated? I'm thinking of just getting an Opera analog based on my concerns with #1, but I don't want to trade one annoyance for another.

I know the above might sound petty, but the Opera costs a lot of money to me. I have no problem spending that kind of money if it gives me what I want, but I'd hate to spend that much and be dissapointed. I'm trying to get real expectations.

Thanks
post #63 of 247
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Originally Posted by strangelove View Post
I'm thinking of getting an Opera and have some questions regarding the Opera DAC:

1) How noticible is the clicking between tracks. I don't want to spend this much money and be disappointed.

2) For those that have the Opera analog, does the LED light blink all the time since there is no digital input (like I've hear the regular Opera does without a digital source lock), or is the LED deactivated? I'm thinking of just getting an Opera analog based on my concerns with #1, but I don't want to trade one annoyance for another.

I know the above might sound petty, but the Opera costs a lot of money to me. I have no problem spending that kind of money if it gives me what I want, but I'd hate to spend that much and be dissapointed. I'm trying to get real expectations.

Thanks
The clicking is somewhat audible, but it happens on the amp itself NOT the headphones, to me it's not enough to be considered a nuisance, but your tolerance may be difference. I think you would find the constant drip of a sink more annoying...

What's cool is the fact that the OPERA's DAC is on par with cdp's in the 500-700range. I've even been told that to gain a substantial boost in performance you're looking at $3000+ Ayre cdps... That's just for a reference point.

As far as being disappointed, thats YOUR call. I have no idea what your expectations are SQ-wise, BUT the Opera (from my vantange point), is among the BEST solid state amps @ $1,000 and under! And trust me, I've heard MANY. YMMV, but I highly doubt you would be disappointed, considering what else is available at this price point.

Good luck!
post #64 of 247
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Originally Posted by strangelove View Post

2) For those that have the Opera analog, does the LED light blink all the time since there is no digital input (like I've hear the regular Opera does without a digital source lock), or is the LED deactivated? I'm thinking of just getting an Opera analog based on my concerns with #1, but I don't want to trade one annoyance for another.
Led is de-activated.
post #65 of 247
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Originally Posted by upstateguy View Post
Another question...

is the difference between z and Z just a gain change or is there something else going on?
According to User Manual supplied with Opera - low z output offer tighter and more accurate control of the HP driver, high Z may add a bit of warmth and colour to the sound. Jan also try both and urges to "trust your own ears".
He also recommends to use low gain setting.

I don't have manual right here with me at work, this is what I remember.
post #66 of 247
If the clicking noise only comes from the amp, not through the headphones, then that's a different story. I doubt you would even be able to hear it much with the headphones on. I was expecting it to be an audible click through the headphones in between each track, which could get bothersome. Since the analog Opera is only $200 cheaper than the regular it seems like a better deal to get the regular if you don't already have a decent DAC. But if the DAC was going to be bothersome I was thinking of just getting the Opera analog and going with a seperate DAC.

Thanks for the input. I'm leaning towards getting the Opera. I've never had a headphone amp before so I'm not sure what to expect, but I figure why not do it right the first time instead of spending $300-400 now on something I'm just going to want to upgrade in 6mo.

Now if the Opera only had a remote control. I can't believe more headphone amps don't have one. The other option I'm considering is going with the Grace m902 just to have the remote option, but that's an even bigger drop in the bucket and I don't know that I can justify it. Especially since the Opera seems like it might be a better overal amp/DAC combo at a much lower cost.

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Originally Posted by Morph201 View Post
The clicking is somewhat audible, but it happens on the amp itself NOT the headphones, to me it's not enough to be considered a nuisance, but your tolerance may be difference. I think you would find the constant drip of a sink more annoying...

What's cool is the fact that the OPERA's DAC is on par with cdp's in the 500-700range. I've even been told that to gain a substantial boost in performance you're looking at $3000+ Ayre cdps... That's just for a reference point.

As far as being disappointed, thats YOUR call. I have no idea what your expectations are SQ-wise, BUT the Opera (from my vantange point), is among the BEST solid state amps @ $1,000 and under! And trust me, I've heard MANY. YMMV, but I highly doubt you would be disappointed, considering what else is available at this price point.

Good luck!
post #67 of 247
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Originally Posted by strangelove View Post
If the clicking noise only comes from the amp, not through the headphones, then that's a different story. I doubt you would even be able to hear it much with the headphones on. I was expecting it to be an audible click through the headphones in between each track, which could get bothersome. Since the analog Opera is only $200 cheaper than the regular it seems like a better deal to get the regular if you don't already have a decent DAC. But if the DAC was going to be bothersome I was thinking of just getting the Opera analog and going with a seperate DAC.

Thanks for the input. I'm leaning towards getting the Opera. I've never had a headphone amp before so I'm not sure what to expect, but I figure why not do it right the first time instead of spending $300-400 now on something I'm just going to want to upgrade in 6mo.

Now if the Opera only had a remote control. I can't believe more headphone amps don't have one. The other option I'm considering is going with the Grace m902 just to have the remote option, but that's an even bigger drop in the bucket and I don't know that I can justify it. Especially since the Opera seems like it might be a better overal amp/DAC combo at a much lower cost.
I only get the clicking in USB and when I use ASIO4ALL v2. When I use other methods such as direct sound or coax input I don't get any clicks. Since the Opera is 3 feet away from me I am able to hear it. As an amp+dac combo for $1100, the Opera is very hard to beat.
post #68 of 247
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Originally Posted by Hi-Finthen View Post
Thanks for the reply to my speculative proposition...
I'm probably completely out of my depth here but I'd like to add another proposition... can this balanced headphone ground setup be applied to a balanced setup? Say, two amp circuits, each channel with their own balanced ground between the positive and negative phase of sound signal. Would this effectively act like a 'quad-mono' amp?

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I can't believe more headphone amps don't have one.
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post #69 of 247
[QUOTE=practitioner;2998746]I'm probably completely out of my depth here but I'd like to add another proposition... can this balanced headphone ground setup be applied to a balanced setup? Say, two amp circuits, each channel with their own balanced ground between the positive and negative phase of sound signal. Would this effectively act like a 'quad-mono' amp?


You see, of course true balanced phone/amp necessitates a balanced source, and here is where it gets interesting with Jans one box intergral pseudo balanced set up IMO & E...

For some unkown technical reasons, I greatly prefered the intergral Opera to both the MHDT Labs/Opera or MHDT/Mapletree and even Operas DAC section out to the Mapletree consistantly due to the Opera being much more dynamic / clear / and impactful yet with a forgiving characteristic with difficult (read poorer) recordings, think Ray Charles from the '50s or even with wall of sound "live" Rock recordings from the '70s ...

Now, weather this is in part due to how it is that Jan has this intergral DAC coupled to the Amp section or, just how well he has "voiced" the two being complementary to be optimal to his ear taking into consideration the recording industry and our applications, can only be speculation on my part. However, the effect is simply stellar with both poor recordings in my library (Ray Charles), and with the best recordings I choose to listen to such as The Beatles Love CD...

So this is what leads me simply to ponder if any further qualitys of a pure balanced system (tightening bass control, increased soundstaging, cross talk eliminated etc) could be enhanced here with the Opera, by a headphone wired balanced and plugged into seperate "low z" jacks.... I would suspect any sonic difference or benefit would be on the order of the increase of control over the drivers and resulting clarity, similar to switching the 990s to the low z jack from the high Z jack; That's to say audiably significant, however incremental, certainly better to my ear.

I recognise now though, as calaf pointed out if true, and the two output jacks are connected in parallel to the amps output stage, then perhaps that would be the deciding factor limiting any benefit to wiring a phone to utilize both low z jacks.... But it is at least, interesting to ponder and discuss here, for my own further understanding of this great piece of gear ...
post #70 of 247

I want an Opera!!

God, this thread is so painful.

How long before Christmas?
post #71 of 247
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Originally Posted by strangelove View Post
If the clicking noise only comes from the amp, not through the headphones, then that's a different story. I doubt you would even be able to hear it much with the headphones on. I was expecting it to be an audible click through the headphones in between each track, which could get bothersome. Since the analog Opera is only $200 cheaper than the regular it seems like a better deal to get the regular if you don't already have a decent DAC. But if the DAC was going to be bothersome I was thinking of just getting the Opera analog and going with a seperate DAC.

Thanks for the input. I'm leaning towards getting the Opera. I've never had a headphone amp before so I'm not sure what to expect, but I figure why not do it right the first time instead of spending $300-400 now on something I'm just going to want to upgrade in 6mo.

Now if the Opera only had a remote control. I can't believe more headphone amps don't have one. The other option I'm considering is going with the Grace m902 just to have the remote option, but that's an even bigger drop in the bucket and I don't know that I can justify it. Especially since the Opera seems like it might be a better overal amp/DAC combo at a much lower cost.
Stranger; Iron_Dreamer has a comprehensive review on the DAC capabilities of the Opera vs the Stellos and Aqvox to be found HERE:

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=229294

Best regards,
Bill
post #72 of 247
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Originally Posted by wpk123 View Post
The biggest negative with the Opera that I have found is that because it is really so neutral, it requires, nay demands, the very best sources.
This is what the meaning of "High Fidelity" supposed to be....the ultimate objective we all seeking for. How could we saying this is "negative"?
post #73 of 247
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Originally Posted by strangelove View Post
I'm thinking of getting an Opera and have some questions regarding the Opera DAC:

1) How noticible is the clicking between tracks. I don't want to spend this much money and be disappointed.

2) For those that have the Opera analog, does the LED light blink all the time since there is no digital input (like I've hear the regular Opera does without a digital source lock), or is the LED deactivated? I'm thinking of just getting an Opera analog based on my concerns with #1, but I don't want to trade one annoyance for another.

I know the above might sound petty, but the Opera costs a lot of money to me. I have no problem spending that kind of money if it gives me what I want, but I'd hate to spend that much and be dissapointed. I'm trying to get real expectations.

Thanks

The most importance to review an amplifier is on its sound. That's why many people out there still stuck with the tube amp even it is troublesome and need to have great care of it.

For the LED blinking, most of us don't think this is a problem because it is no reason why we have to keep looking on it when listening.
post #74 of 247
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Originally Posted by strangelove View Post
I'm thinking of getting an Opera and have some questions regarding the Opera DAC:

1) How noticible is the clicking between tracks. I don't want to spend this much money and be disappointed.

2) For those that have the Opera analog, does the LED light blink all the time since there is no digital input (like I've hear the regular Opera does without a digital source lock), or is the LED deactivated? I'm thinking of just getting an Opera analog based on my concerns with #1, but I don't want to trade one annoyance for another.

I know the above might sound petty, but the Opera costs a lot of money to me. I have no problem spending that kind of money if it gives me what I want, but I'd hate to spend that much and be dissapointed. I'm trying to get real expectations.

Thanks
I think the clicking is dependent on your source. Don't assume you will hear it. I am using USB from my Mac and have never heard any clicking at all.

I do not think you will be dissapointed. I agree it is a lot of money to spend (my wife stroked out when she found out what it cost), but I have no regrets and would love to buy a second one for my office. The best I have ever heard.

Now that I have the Opera, I need to upgrade my portable amp as it just does not sound as good as it used to.

I would buy the version with the DAC if you need one. If you buy the analog version, I believe the led is deactivated and does not blink.
post #75 of 247
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Originally Posted by strangelove View Post
Since the analog Opera is only $200 cheaper than the regular it seems like a better deal to get the regular if you don't already have a decent DAC. But if the DAC was going to be bothersome I was thinking of just getting the Opera analog and going with a seperate DAC.
That's right, just make sure that your sources are not optical only (no coax) as it was case with both of my sources (DAP and CDP). Since Opera doesn't have optical in (asked Jan about possible mod to add Toslink - prohibitively expensive) and not being fan of any adaptors/converters in digital path I had no choice but go for Analog.

So far Zhaolu D2 does the DAC job, Benchmark DAC1 is on my way.
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