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post #31 of 45
10/13/07 at 7:09am
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Originally Posted by kpeezy View Post
Hm.. pros definitely do NOT have a set of headphones hanging around their neck. I don't know what kind of pro gamers you're looking at. Currently, Pro FPS players are using that Sennheiser 25-CAP that someone posted earlier. Otherwise, they just use gaming headphones with great placement and an attached mic.

Ever since Steelsound started handing out sponsorships to pro teams like candy MAYBE. However, for years, using a headset around your neck and a nice pair of headphones was common at big LANs with big teams.

I personally knew one from Team3D that would use HD600's coupled with a headset around his neck. He has since been sponsored to SteelSound headsets, but it is still common practice.
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post #32 of 45
10/13/07 at 4:09pm
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Originally Posted by Redo View Post
Ever since Steelsound started handing out sponsorships to pro teams like candy MAYBE. However, for years, using a headset around your neck and a nice pair of headphones was common at big LANs with big teams.

I personally knew one from Team3D that would use HD600's coupled with a headset around his neck. He has since been sponsored to SteelSound headsets, but it is still common practice.
Too bad these teams don't have the balls to tell them, they will wear what they want to wear. ppl really don't see the sponsor ship aspect at all.. They just see ppl wearing SteelSound headsets.
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post #33 of 45
10/13/07 at 5:29pm
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Originally Posted by Edwood View Post
Since I game on the XBox 360, a separate headset with it's own speaker is needed.

So my setup of choice is my K1000's with a Plantronics Mirage on my ear, underneath one of the earspeakers.

-Ed
x2. my only gaming headset is the 360 one, its not too bad at all eitha
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post #34 of 45
10/14/07 at 11:39am

Gaming HS

Hi @ll

http://www.beyerdynamic.de/cms/Gamin...28.0.html?&L=1
Just have a look ;-)
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post #35 of 45
10/14/07 at 12:17pm
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Originally Posted by kool bubba ice View Post
Too bad these teams don't have the balls to tell them, they will wear what they want to wear. ppl really don't see the sponsor ship aspect at all.. They just see ppl wearing SteelSound headsets.
I think this is a fairly naieve view of the situation. Right now there are very very few pro gramers who could do what they do without sponsorship. People also know full well that these companies are sponsoring them.

People make compromises all the time. I mean, look at that Head-Fi sponsor list to the right of this post. A few of the companies out there make or sell products, that to be quite frank, are not the best value out there. People still support them to support this site. Do they not have balls either?
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post #36 of 45
10/14/07 at 1:03pm
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Originally Posted by Chu View Post
I think this is a fairly naieve view of the situation. Right now there are very very few pro gramers who could do what they do without sponsorship. People also know full well that these companies are sponsoring them.

People make compromises all the time. I mean, look at that Head-Fi sponsor list to the right of this post. A few of the companies out there make or sell products, that to be quite frank, are not the best value out there. People still support them to support this site. Do they not have balls either?

Mmhmm

Even amongst the most elite of the Pro's that can afford to buy and live in their own team house, they still NEED the sponsorships. Winning big LAN's is a good chunk of money, but sponsors pay for transport, lodging, and entrance fee's to countless other LAN's that wouldn't be worth the travel otherwise. They host servers and even co-sponsor tournaments. Without all these contracts and gear and money, Pro gaming would be back where it was 5 years ago.
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post #37 of 45
10/17/07 at 3:58pm
I have to agree that I think a lot of it has to do with the advertising and sponsors' products that the top gamers are using. People start reading into it too much and get the impression that ALL top gamers use this high dollar pair of headphones and that without them they are just another better-than-average player. Which of course has nothing to do with it.

Back in the day I played Rainbow 6 (the original) and Team Fortress Classic very competively on the #1 team for many seasons. Speakeasy sponsored our team for free servers and even had an all expense paid trip to play in Dallas, TX for a tournament. For R6 the majority of the time I was using a cheap pair of headphones that came with my CD player! By the time I moved on to TFC I spent a few dollars and picked up a pair of Plantronics - mostly because of recommendation from someone I used voice chat with, and had a very good quality microphone. Not to mention I played these games on a 500MHz Pentium 3!
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post #38 of 45
10/17/07 at 4:18pm
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Originally Posted by catscratch View Post
SK gaming used HD650's at some point, though why they used them I have no idea, since they're terrible gaming headphones.
Care to elaborate?
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post #39 of 45
10/17/07 at 7:54pm
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Originally Posted by nautikal View Post
Care to elaborate?
i'm guessing he means they need a pretty decent amp to fill out, and normally you won't want to bring such an expensive system to every tournament you're going to. the HD580~650 line don't perform very well straight out of a soundcard jack.
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post #40 of 45
10/17/07 at 9:18pm
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Originally Posted by techniqu View Post
i'm guessing he means they need a pretty decent amp to fill out, and normally you won't want to bring such an expensive system to every tournament you're going to. the HD580~650 line don't perform very well straight out of a soundcard jack.
Ahhh that makes more sense because I get really good positional audio in games with my amped 580s. Sadly, I bought 5.1 surround sound "gaming" headphones once , but that was when I was like 12. I'm no longer ignorant .
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post #41 of 45
10/18/07 at 8:25am
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Originally Posted by nautikal View Post
Care to elaborate?
First, there's the amp issue. They need a lot of power to sing, and you're not always allowed or are able to use an amp wherever it is you're going. But most importantly, they have completely the wrong tonal balance for gaming. The highs are recessed, which is where most of your relevant information is, the mids are very present, giving you a lot of distracting information, and the bass is strong, but not very snappy (especially when they're underdriven). So, you have a lush, creamy sound that tends to blend positional cues together while masking important information.

You still get better performance that you would with el cheapo cans, but you could do much better for half the price. These headphones just aren't made for gaming.

Still, if they work for you, great. You never really know what works out for different people.
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post #42 of 45
10/18/07 at 9:17am
I'm a gamer (been im multiple clans, atm a DotA clan and some CS-S clans). I use DT-770 Pro's and they work just fine. The reason why gamers want "gamer heaphones" is because most believe that they have a customized soundstage which is important to all first-person-shooter gamers because hearing the opponents is a VERY big part of the game. The clearer the soundstage -> the better you hear -> the more you kill -> the 'better' you are. The mic thing is all about convenience.
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post #43 of 45
10/18/07 at 10:56am
I use HD580's with a desktop mic and it's great. I've never seen a "pro gamer" wearing a mic around their neck but who knows.. I haven't played CS since the M4 had a scope or anything. Either way, pros haven't hung mics around their neck in a long time and they just use whoever sponsors them.This year it's sennheiser, last year it was steelpad.. who really cares.
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post #44 of 45
10/18/07 at 10:57am
I saw an ultrasone can (probably the HFI-700), aviator style online the other day. I'd imagine that would be the ultimate gaming headphone given it's relative ease of driveability, not-huge size and of course, killer deep bass and s-logic-enhanced sound stage.
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post #45 of 45
10/18/07 at 9:29pm
I have a pair of steelsound v2s or whatever they're called that i got from buy.com when they were having a sale for $10 shipped. As far as i'm concerned, they do what they do. No bass, huge mids and uppermids/treble, and it does what it does for fps so you can hear the noise from the guy planting on the other side of the wall. Also, they're pretty comfy, the mic is really convenient and the disassembly into headband and 2 cans is pretty convenient. that being said, I prefer the huge rolled off bass because I really don't need it. Does it help me play better? every once in a while maybe. Thing is, the people that spend money on gaming specifically branded headphones are the same ones who will think that logitech x230s or z2300s are the end of the world for "awesome sound." the bass is so ridiculous on those things, especially the 120watt sub on the 2300s. It's really just a different market, head-fi is a niche, far too many other people are happy with sony iems or the holy grail of bose. marketing is so powerful.
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