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post #16 of 41
5/22/07 at 2:44pm
WOW that must be the ultimate DAP then!!!
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post #17 of 41
5/22/07 at 3:03pm
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Originally Posted by robert1325 View Post
WOW that must be the ultimate DAP then!!!
The DJ Mode is actually inherited from the Rio Karma, including the different names. The one key difference, and something that bugs me, is that Memory Lane and Forgotten Gems on the Vibez ignore tracks that have never been played before. On the Karma they were always included. Oh, well. Still kicks butt.

Also, I think there's a mistake in the Vibez documentation about Deja Vu: I don't think play count is considered. It simply plays back the selected tracks in chronological order based on when each was played last.

EDIT: No synching is required for DJ Mode. Vibez builds them upon request.
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post #18 of 41
5/22/07 at 3:56pm
AHA, Well I'm still happy with my two Flash Rio carbons ... Just ordered two new battery's for them so I'll be ok for a couple of years
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post #19 of 41
5/22/07 at 4:06pm
Huh. I have a 120GB Neuros II. It has everything I own on it. I use playlists or pick albums to get what I want to hear. Or I let it do the random shuffleyness to run in to things I haven't heard in ages. I try not to hit "next" too much.

That list of playback types is cool. I wish the Neuros did it, or even had a "switch to this artist/genre/album" choice for when some cool but forgotten track drifted across random play.
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post #20 of 41
5/22/07 at 4:18pm
"So now i'm getting one with maximum 512 mb to shuffle through new music that i load once every week to discover new music."

I may be practicing Head-Fi overkill, but I'm building a collection of different players for different types of listening. I know what you're saying -- so I have players ranging from 256MB to 40GB. Sometimes I want just old favorites, sometimes I just want new (or new to me) music, and sometimes I want a combination. Sometimes I want a wide variety, and sometimes I want to focus on a smaller number of artists or genres.

Basically, I'm indulging myself and operating on the premise that I'm not trying for a "one player for all purposes" approach.

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2nd Generation 10GB iPod for Windows (retired)
Creative Muvo 256MB
Creative Muvo 1GB (out on loan)
Rio Carbon 5GB
Cowon iAudio 5 1GB (out on loan)
Rio Karma 20GB
Creative Zen Nano 1GB
Samsung YP-U2 512MB
4th Generation 40GB iPod (monochrome)
2nd Generation iPod Nano 4GB
Creative Zen Stone 1GB
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post #21 of 41
5/22/07 at 4:38pm
This is why I continue to listen to my ipod with the iTunes software rather than rockbox. Because the smart playlist functionality is endlessly configurable. It's similar to the different DJ modes described above, except that you get to create all the criteria yourself. So it could be all the songs you haven't heard in the last week, or all the hip hop you haven't heard in the last week, or all the hip hop and electronica you haven't heard in the last week, or all the hip hop and electronica that you've rated 4 stars or higher and haven't heard in the last week. The list goes on and on. And then you can limit each playlist to a certain number of songs based on even more criteria. So it could be hip hop I haven't heard in the last week, but limited to only the 50 songs that I have most recently added to my music collection.

The one problem is that the 4g ipod doesn't automatically update a playlist as you listen to it. The 5g ipod does. This is why I have, with great regret, put my 4g iMod up for sale, even though it sounds amazing. I just can't live without those automatically updating smart playlists. They have completely unlocked my music collection.
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post #22 of 41
5/22/07 at 4:38pm
Whatever the first gen shuffle was, it sounded better than any stock MP3 player out there. Not sure bout second gen though.
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post #23 of 41
5/22/07 at 5:06pm
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Originally Posted by scompton View Post
I have an 80 GB iPod and have the opposite problem. I wish it was bigger. My music collection is big enough that whittling it down to 80 GB leaves only albums that I really like. Every time I get a new CD, I have to decide what CD that I like has to be deleted. I have a play list of my absolute favorite 50 or so CDs and a play list of recent CDs. I still shuffle by album over the entire collection frequently. I love when I surprised by an album I've not heard for a while.
wish I was able to buying so much music right now.

a friend of mine back in the 80's had a little over 4000 LP's and there is no telling how much he has now in LP's and CD's. back then when he picked out an album that he hadn't really had the chance to listen to very much he would call it rediscovering music.
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post #24 of 41
5/22/07 at 5:12pm
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Originally Posted by raptor18 View Post
I just lost my 1 gen shuffle. I have no idea where it is. I'm not so up for buying the same player again =)

But yes, it was actually perfect. That is why i considered 2 gen shuffle, but then again, i've read so much about it sounding so terrible.

Regards
Raptor
by what I have read here at Head-Fi the 2G Shuffle is not as bad as people are letting on.

you can get a refurbished 1G Shuffle from Apple for $39.
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post #25 of 41
5/22/07 at 5:52pm
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Originally Posted by scompton View Post
I have an 80 GB iPod and have the opposite problem. I wish it was bigger. My music collection is big enough that whittling it down to 80 GB leaves only albums that I really like. Every time I get a new CD, I have to decide what CD that I like has to be deleted. I have a play list of my absolute favorite 50 or so CDs and a play list of recent CDs. I still shuffle by album over the entire collection frequently. I love when I surprised by an album I've not heard for a while.
What bit rate are you using? I hope not PCM wav files. mp3 at 320kbps or equivalent codecs should be more then enough sound quality while having massive storage with your 80GB iPod. Unless you just really have that much music.
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post #26 of 41
5/22/07 at 6:31pm
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Originally Posted by noseallinit View Post
wish I was able to buying so much music right now.

a friend of mine back in the 80's had a little over 4000 LP's and there is no telling how much he has now in LP's and CD's. back then when he picked out an album that he hadn't really had the chance to listen to very much he would call it rediscovering music.
This is why I like having as much of my collection as possible on my iPod and shuffle by album. Something will come up that I haven't heard in a few years and it's like a new album. I love it.

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Originally Posted by Sparda View Post
What bit rate are you using? I hope not PCM wav files. mp3 at 320kbps or equivalent codecs should be more then enough sound quality while having massive storage with your 80GB iPod. Unless you just really have that much music.
128kbps and 160kbps AAC. I'm slowly reripping everything to lossless, then on to my 500 or so LPs that I haven't listened to in years. I have over 1600 CDs, around 120 GB of AACs. Not all of it is something that I'd care if it got on the iPod, but I'd like about 100GB.
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post #27 of 41
5/22/07 at 6:32pm
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Originally Posted by mcmyers View Post
This is why I continue to listen to my ipod with the iTunes software rather than rockbox. Because the smart playlist functionality is endlessly configurable. It's similar to the different DJ modes described above, except that you get to create all the criteria yourself. So it could be all the songs you haven't heard in the last week, or all the hip hop you haven't heard in the last week, or all the hip hop and electronica you haven't heard in the last week, or all the hip hop and electronica that you've rated 4 stars or higher and haven't heard in the last week. The list goes on and on. And then you can limit each playlist to a certain number of songs based on even more criteria. So it could be hip hop I haven't heard in the last week, but limited to only the 50 songs that I have most recently added to my music collection.

The one problem is that the 4g ipod doesn't automatically update a playlist as you listen to it. The 5g ipod does. This is why I have, with great regret, put my 4g iMod up for sale, even though it sounds amazing. I just can't live without those automatically updating smart playlists. They have completely unlocked my music collection.
That's a huge bonus, being able to create smart playlists the iPod can build on demand absolutely sounds like the best of both worlds.
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post #28 of 41
5/22/07 at 7:15pm
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Originally Posted by RubenNYC View Post
That's a huge bonus, being able to create smart playlists the iPod can build on demand absolutely sounds like the best of both worlds.
Smart playlists are why I've never been able to get away from the iPod and iTunes. I have about 15 smart playlists on my iPod and about 10 in iTunes. They're incredibly flexible. You can test any ID3 field that iTunes supports, including the Comments field. I read in another thread that someone puts sub genres in the comments field and then creates smart playlists off of it. Smart playlists, gapless playback, and the ability to play multidisc CDs in the correct order without a playlist are features I use every day. I've looked at using foobar and other PDPs, but without these features, they're non starters for me.
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post #29 of 41
5/22/07 at 7:23pm
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Originally Posted by mcmyers View Post
This is why I continue to listen to my ipod with the iTunes software rather than rockbox. Because the smart playlist functionality is endlessly configurable. It's similar to the different DJ modes described above, except that you get to create all the criteria yourself. So it could be all the songs you haven't heard in the last week, or all the hip hop you haven't heard in the last week, or all the hip hop and electronica you haven't heard in the last week, or all the hip hop and electronica that you've rated 4 stars or higher and haven't heard in the last week. The list goes on and on. And then you can limit each playlist to a certain number of songs based on even more criteria. So it could be hip hop I haven't heard in the last week, but limited to only the 50 songs that I have most recently added to my music collection.

The one problem is that the 4g ipod doesn't automatically update a playlist as you listen to it. The 5g ipod does. This is why I have, with great regret, put my 4g iMod up for sale, even though it sounds amazing. I just can't live without those automatically updating smart playlists. They have completely unlocked my music collection.
X2 but I have a 5,5 generation
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post #30 of 41
5/22/07 at 8:00pm
With gapless and search iPods are making strides in the right direction. I'm going to predict that with G6 you'll get the ability to Insert tracks into any location you want inside a quick playlist, as opposed to only appending. . Just a guess.
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