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post #331 of 496
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Originally Posted by upstateguy View Post
Others have posted that the DA 100 runs hot also, but mine runs barely warm (8-10hrs at a time)unless the ambient temp goes over 80F, at which time all my equipment heats up... I do not upsample and have both optical and USB connected.

Are you using the 192 feature? How old is your unit? How quickly does it reach what you would call very warm/hot? How do you have it connected when it runs hot... opt, USB, coax or as you posted above? Is it well ventilated or surrounded by other equipment?

I'm just curious about this... I have it on a perforated stand next to a Woo3 with a GS-1 under it... Don't know why some of them run hot....

Regarding the volume level, I find both my GS-1 and Woo3 are comfortable at 9:00 too.

Regarding the cables, although I have great respect for his input, I have to disagree with Andrew, placebo effect, unsupported by any measurements.... just get good short cables. I use Dayton 1.5ft.

On the other hand, if you believe in "cables" by all means get some, I'm sure you will hear a difference.

After all, it's only a hobby...

USG
I also found that when ambient temperature is at about 80F all my equipments get hot. At about 75F things are warm to very warm. The DA100 gets very warm/hot after about 1 hour of turning it on. I guess that's normal. I wish I have an infrared themometer so I can measure the surface temperatures

I think the ventilation around my DA100 pretty good. The Gilmore Lite is 3 inches to the left of it, and nothing to right or top of it. I have a Pioneer A35R integrated amp below the DA100 but it only gets slightly warm. Having the integrated amp on or off does not affect the heat of the DA100.

I do use the 192Khz upsample. I have coaxial and two optical connected to it. Only one of them are active at any time.

I don't really believe in expensive cables. I think cables that are above the ones that come free with equipments are fine. Having said that, I still want to try it for myself. I'm just too curious. So when I get some more extra money at the end of this year I will try the Signal Cable Silver Resolution and Audioquest King Cobra.

EDIT: Today's a bit cooler at my house. With ambient room temperature at about 68F, the DA100 is just warm, not hot. Seems like everything is fine.
post #332 of 496
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Originally Posted by upstateguy View Post
Hi Gregious

FWIW, you might be better off with a brighter DAC, like the Benchmark, to go with your Woo6.

I find that there is very good synergy between my darker DA100 and my brighter GS-1 and K701.

Conversely, I'm using the brighter sounding Constantine USB , (with a Blue Circle Thingee doing the USB conversion) with my darker (relative to the GS-1) M^3 and Woo3 and '03 880s + 650s with good synergy.

USG
Thanks, USG. That's a good point I hadn't given much consideration. My set-up could probably benefit from a brighter sounding DAC. I've been considering the benchmark USB as well, but the stello I2S got me curious.
post #333 of 496
Hello , ... I was about to order a VDA•2 ($600) from Channel Islands Audio but for some voltage raison I have to add a VAC•1 Upgrade Power Supply ($180) .

This leads close to the price of a Stello DA100 Signature ($900) .

Now , sorry to ask you obviously already answered questions , is it worth going DA100 against VDA•2 and is it worth taking the DA100 Signature rather than it's older brother ?

I intend to connect a WA6-SE then recabled Grado GS 1000 for the moment .

Thank you !

Edit : That is ok , I have found the answers in the previous posts ! ... but any bonus comments will be appreciated !
post #334 of 496
I have upgraded my computer with Q6600 and Asus P5Q Deluxe. Suddenly DA100 is not recognized by windows. Tried two motherboards, latest drivers, BIOS tweaking and even 32/64 bit XP and Vista. It does work with my old rig.

Any driver problems? Anyone?
post #335 of 496
I'm still a bit confused about the signature. Is it fully balanced or not? I've read reports saying one or the other and it's confusing.
post #336 of 496
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Originally Posted by kaushama View Post
I have upgraded my computer with Q6600 and Asus P5Q Deluxe. Suddenly DA100 is not recognized by windows. Tried two motherboards, latest drivers, BIOS tweaking and even 32/64 bit XP and Vista. It does work with my old rig.

Any driver problems? Anyone?

Use the Intel inf on the Asus cd for the chipset. I often see a command prompt window on bootup about updating the usb drivers that I have only seen on the P5Q Deluxe. I am using Vista64. In Device Manager it says something about server drivers for usb, so that might have something to do with it. Hopefully this will help you.
post #337 of 496
My DA100 Signature has arrived !

All went smoothly with April Music : order , shipping via FedEx , packaging : we are with very serious people for sure .

- Before : MacBook / USB / Corda Cantate / Grado RS 2

- Now : MacBook / Optical Van den Hul OPTOCOUPLER Mk II / DA100 S / DiMarzio Interconnect RCA / Corda Cantate / Grado RS 2

- Waiting for Woo WA6-SE and Recabled Grado GS 1000 to arrive

-----> very happy since the first minute of listening (no burning yet) : stage , bass etc ... it is a very nice upgrade but I am not able to describe it .
post #338 of 496
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Originally Posted by yoff View Post
My DA100 Signature has arrived !

All went smoothly with April Music : order , shipping via FedEx , packaging : we are with very serious people for sure .

- Before : MacBook / USB / Corda Cantate / Grado RS 2

- Now : MacBook / Optical Van den Hul OPTOCOUPLER Mk II / DA100 S / DiMarzio Interconnect RCA / Corda Cantate / Grado RS 2

- Waiting for Woo WA6-SE and Recabled Grado GS 1000 to arrive

-----> very happy since the first minute of listening (no burning yet) : stage , bass etc ... it is a very nice upgrade but I am not able to describe it .
Hi yoff

When you get your system together, could you compare the optical connection to the USB connection for us?

USG
post #339 of 496
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Originally Posted by upstateguy View Post
... compare the optical connection to the USB connection ...
Will try !
post #340 of 496
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Originally Posted by upstateguy View Post
Hi yoff

When you get your system together, could you compare the optical connection to the USB connection for us?

USG
X2,
Thanks in advance
post #341 of 496
Anyone else take the plug to comment further?

That the DA100S has a darker signature (at least compared to DAC1) generally agreed upon?
post #342 of 496
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Originally Posted by blessingx View Post
Anyone else take the plug to comment further?

That the DA100S has a darker signature (at least compared to DAC1) generally agreed upon?
Hi BX, how are you doing?

I can comment on the DA100 a little. I have found that this heavy little DAC has many personalities. Some dark and rich and others much brighter. Connected optically to one of my computers with AC97 it is darker than my Constantine USB when it is also connected optically. That statement really needs a qualifier though because the Stello introduces an entire range of bass and tonality that just isn't present with the Constantine,... and I like my Constantine. The optical connection may be further regulated by choosing 32 bits or 16 bits in foobar. My understanding is that the ALC650 chip is an 18 bit chip, but ASIO4ALL tells me that I'm getting 32 bits optically, and 16 bits through USB. That said, 32 bits optically gives me a darker, more robust, fuller and perhaps even more natural sound than what I perceive as the brighter, more resolving 16 bit setting. I like both settings and use them both depending on the material I'm listening to and the status of my ears,... which apparently changes, because sometimes I clearly prefer one setting over the other, but even that is not consistent.

Connected via USB, the sound is very resolving, has slightly less bottom than the optical setting on 32 bit, and is similar to the 16 bit optical setting, perhaps because they are both 16 bit. I like the USB personality and use it half the time. Brighter than the optical connection, and a tad less of the large bottom, it is very balanced and enjoyable to listen to. The deal is, you have to know what to listen for to hear all the nuances I've talked about and when I first got the Stello, I did not know what to listen for so all I heard was the bottom end. In this respect, it is easier by far to evaluate going from better downward than upward from good to better.

Now just when you think you have it all figured out, synergy comes into play. I have the Stello paired with a GS-1 and 701s. This is a very pleasing set up for the 701s because it enhances the feeling of openness, airiness and stage, while giving the 701s a nice bottom end.... helped with just a tiny bit of EQ, 1 click at 110, 2 at 77 and 3 at 55. This puts me in the largest listening room my mid-fi stuff can muster.... until, of course, my ears cycle around and then out comes the 650s to tame all the highs.

I don't know that I want to call the Stello's signature dark any more. It's fuller and richer than a Constantine, Zhao D2, or DAC-AH. If I had to compare it to headphones, I would say it's more like a 650 than an 880. I suppose the one thing you can say is that it is not bright in the way people describe the Benchmark.

USG
post #343 of 496
upstateguy, your impressions are really interesting to me because I am considering this DAC. I want to use it with USB, and pair it with HD600's. Am I going to need to pair it with an amp that brightens the system up? I guess that's how I interpret your comments.

The Stello HP100 has the "filter selector", and I was considering that would be a very handy way to compensate for this. Can anyone comment on that combination?
post #344 of 496
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Originally Posted by Orcin View Post
Am I going to need to pair it with an amp that brightens the system up?
In general amp should not hide source flaws and used as equalizer, the less coloration the better. Headamp products like GS-1 are very transparent, you probably want to check them out as they pair excellent with Stello.
post #345 of 496
Hi, Upstateguy!

I want to buy a DAC, and I have to choose between Constantine+ and Stello DA100. Since you've got both of them, your advice would be of special value to me.

My setup is:
CD-player NAD C521BEE
Amplifier: NAD C320BEE
Speakers: Acoustic Energy Aegis EVO 3

My goal is to replace cd-player with a DAC and be able to play flacs using my computer via USB.

I've come across your negative comments about the SQ of Constantine+ when it's fed via USB. However, later, if I am not mistaken, you changed your opinion saying that Constantine+ was not as bad via USB as you initially had thought. What's your current opinion on it? Does USB input really sound so much worse than optical and coax inputs in Constantine+?

In your opinion, which DAC is more worth its price - Constantine or Stello DA100 (if both are used via USB)?

Also, I want to share this link with this thread:
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Stello DA100 is sold there for 550,000 Korean Won, it's equivalent of USD541. Anybody tried to buy from this Korean web-site? It's in the Korean language, I cannot understand a thing. I wrote a letter to shop@fineav.com asking them about the delivery charges (to Russia), but no reply yet.
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