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post #316 of 496
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
ASIO4ALL playback output, maxed out vol, no replay gain, out of DSP only Advanced Limiter, all music in FLAC. You shouldn't resample, let Stello deal with that, what sampling rate your internet radio is in?
I turned off the resampler to see what would happen... didn't seem to make a difference, but doesn't Hydrogen list the Resampler in their set up instructions?

Malo, how do you have your foobar set up?

USG

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post #317 of 496
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Originally Posted by upstateguy View Post
I turned off the resampler to see what would happen... didn't seem to make a difference, but doesn't Hydrogen list the Resampler in their set up instructions?

Malo, how do you have your foobar set up?

USG

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You may want to use resampler in two cases only:
1) If your sound device (DAC, soundcard) has a problem properly upsampling 44100 to 4800 (not the case with Stello, but I had to do this with Audigy and onboard cards) Google for udial sample file for testing that.
2) It benefits from and can accept upsampled (24/96) data. For instance standard non-Ultra MicroDAC does not have internal upsampler, but chip can accept 24/96 via optical/coax, feeding upsampled (Secret Rabbit Code) in foobar data to Transit and then to Micro was helping a good deal with smoothness, soundstage and dynamics.
post #318 of 496
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
You may want to use resampler in two cases only:
1) If your sound device (DAC, soundcard) has a problem properly upsampling 44100 to 4800 (not the case with Stello, but I had to do this with Audigy and onboard cards) Google for udial sample file for testing that.
2) It benefits from and can accept upsampled (24/96) data. For instance standard non-Ultra MicroDAC does not have internal upsampler, but chip can accept 24/96 via optical/coax, feeding upsampled (Secret Rabbit Code) in foobar data to Transit and then to Micro was helping a good deal with smoothness, soundstage and dynamics.
Why were you using a Transit? I thought the MicroDAC had a USB connection. How good it a Transit? Do you know how it compare with the Edirol, Behringer, Turtle Beach units?

I tried the Secret Rabbit Code in the last version of foobar, but didn't notice a difference between that and the PPHS... when I upgraded to foo 9.5 I just used the PPHS that it came with......

USG

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post #319 of 496
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Originally Posted by upstateguy View Post
Why were you using a Transit? I thought the MicroDAC had a USB connection. How good it a Transit?
It has, but not good enough. Transit takes it to the next level. And as USB/SPDIF converter it is very good.
post #320 of 496
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Originally Posted by upstateguy View Post
Hi Ben

Maybe we have to be on the same page to hear the same things...

If you are able to use your computer as a source for this test, the following is my configuration with both optical and USB plugged into the computer.....

computer as a source> StelloDA100>Foobar 9.5>ASIO4All 2.8>GS-1>K701s (since we both have them) with a slight bass boost on the foobar equalizer.

That configuration has a slightly brighter (and I almost hesitate to use the terms cleaner or clearer) presentation than the optical setting of "KS Realtek AC97 Audio"... originally I thought ASIO and optical sounded the same, but that doesn't seem to be the case any longer...

This is what my foobar boost looks like: one click up 156 Hz, 2 clicks at 110 and so on



My ASIO configuration looks like this:



If you are able approximate this configuration, can you hear any differences between optical and ASIO USB?

If we are able to calibrate our rigs in this way, we will be able to listen to the upsampling from the same frame of reference....

If all of this is too much, just say so and I will delete this post.....

About your old ears.... not to worry, mine are older...

Eric
Sorry for the late reply Eric but I've been busy loving my new acquired Stello HP100
The DA100/HP100 is really a stellar combination (at least to my worn-out ears)
Both my K701s and HD650s took a step up in their performance.
I almost think that I am done with upgrading for a serious while
post #321 of 496
Just got a Stello DA100 today! It is an amazing DAC. I think I'm hearing details that were not there before. Very good soundstage and layering. It is a HUGE step up from my Entech 203.2. It even makes some poorly recorded MP3s sound good! I'm really enjoying the sound of this DAC.
post #322 of 496
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Originally Posted by lmf22 View Post
Just got a Stello DA100 today! It is an amazing DAC. I think I'm hearing details that were not there before. Very good soundstage and layering. It is a HUGE step up from my Entech 203.2. It even makes some poorly recorded MP3s sound good! I'm really enjoying the sound of this DAC.
Hi Imf

Welcome to the Stello club....

What are you using to supply your Stello with a signal?

USG

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post #323 of 496
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Originally Posted by upstateguy View Post
Hi Imf

Welcome to the Stello club....

What are you using to supply your Stello with a signal?

USG

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I'm using 3 difference sources:
Coaxial: Marantz CD5001 --> Blue Jeans coaxial
Optical 1: iTunes (ALAC and MP3s; non ASIO) --> Blue Jeans optical
Optical 2: Sangean HDT-1X HD radio --> ebay glass optical

Some questions for Stello DA100 owners. I found that the volume is pretty loud for the DA100's 1.2Vrm output. On my Gilmore Lite --> K701, a comfortable volume is at the 9 o'clock position, which is similar to my Entech 203.2 (which has 2.5Vrm output). Is this normal?

Also, I was wondering if upgrading from Blue Jeans to Signal Cable silver interconnects will improve the sound. I'm thinking about the Signal Cable Silver Resolution.

What about upgrading the power cable? Signal Cable MagicPower Digital Reference?
post #324 of 496
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Originally Posted by lmf22 View Post
I'm using 3 difference sources:
Coaxial: Marantz CD5001 --> Blue Jeans coaxial
Optical 1: iTunes (ALAC and MP3s; non ASIO) --> Blue Jeans optical
Optical 2: Sangean HDT-1X HD radio --> ebay glass optical

Some questions for Stello DA100 owners. I found that the volume is pretty loud for the DA100's 1.2Vrm output. On my Gilmore Lite --> K701, a comfortable volume is at the 9 o'clock position, which is similar to my Entech 203.2 (which has 2.5Vrm output). Is this normal?

Also, I was wondering if upgrading from Blue Jeans to Signal Cable silver interconnects will improve the sound. I'm thinking about the Signal Cable Silver Resolution.

What about upgrading the power cable? Signal Cable MagicPower Digital Reference?
I saw a very positive change moving from Signal Cable Analog2 (copper) to Grover Sc (silver for signal, copper for ground combo). Check this thread out
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f21/bu...ver-ic-300293/
post #325 of 496

I2S

I don't know how much longer I can resist the DA100 Signature!

Anyone have any experience with the empirical audio off-ramp I2S? Interconnects and Cables by Empirical Audio

I'm really curious how their USB to I2S converter might sound piped into the DA100 I2S. If direct I2S is that much better, might be a nice combination for getting I2S out of a PC.
post #326 of 496
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Originally Posted by Gregious View Post
I don't know how much longer I can resist the DA100 Signature!

Anyone have any experience with the empirical audio off-ramp I2S? Interconnects and Cables by Empirical Audio

I'm really curious how their USB to I2S converter might sound piped into the DA100 I2S. If direct I2S is that much better, might be a nice combination for getting I2S out of a PC.

Hi Gregious

FWIW, you might be better off with a brighter DAC, like the Benchmark, to go with your Woo6.

I find that there is very good synergy between my darker DA100 and my brighter GS-1 and K701.

Conversely, I'm using the brighter sounding Constantine USB , (with a Blue Circle Thingee doing the USB conversion) with my darker (relative to the GS-1) M^3 and Woo3 and '03 880s + 650s with good synergy.

USG
post #327 of 496
Quick question. The DA100 runs very warm/hot, so it is ok to leave it on most of the day (about 14 hours)? I usually leave my equipments on throughout the day and turn them off when I go to bed.
post #328 of 496
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Originally Posted by lmf22 View Post
Quick question. The DA100 runs very warm/hot, so it is ok to leave it on most of the day (about 14 hours)? I usually leave my equipments on throughout the day and turn them off when I go to bed.
Others have posted that the DA 100 runs hot also, but mine runs barely warm (8-10hrs at a time)unless the ambient temp goes over 80F, at which time all my equipment heats up... I do not upsample and have both optical and USB connected.

Are you using the 192 feature? How old is your unit? How quickly does it reach what you would call very warm/hot? How do you have it connected when it runs hot... opt, USB, coax or as you posted above? Is it well ventilated or surrounded by other equipment?

I'm just curious about this... I have it on a perforated stand next to a Woo3 with a GS-1 under it... Don't know why some of them run hot....

Regarding the volume level, I find both my GS-1 and Woo3 are comfortable at 9:00 too.

Regarding the cables, although I have great respect for his input, I have to disagree with Andrew, placebo effect, unsupported by any measurements.... just get good short cables. I use Dayton 1.5ft.

On the other hand, if you believe in "cables" by all means get some, I'm sure you will hear a difference.

After all, it's only a hobby...

USG



post #329 of 496
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Originally Posted by upstateguy View Post
Regarding the cables, although I have great respect for his input, I have to disagree with Andrew, placebo effect, unsupported by any measurements.... just get good short cables. I use Dayton 1.5ft.
We already have plenty of useless cable debates in cable section. For me A/B-ing two IC cables was enough to get very convinced. Same goes for headphone cables.
You are so sure it's a "placebo", but have you tried good silver cable yourself?
post #330 of 496
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
We already have plenty of useless cable debates in cable section. For me A/B-ing two IC cables was enough to get very convinced. Same goes for headphone cables.
You are so sure it's a "placebo", but have you tried good silver cable yourself?
Imf22 was inquiring about upgrading his cables and I simply offered my opinion, that with great respect to your take on cables, I consider the entire cable issue kinda hokey. When you start hearing things that can't be measured, it falls into the category of unmeasurable placebo effect... if you want to hear a difference or you expect to hear a difference, you probably will.

USG
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