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I've got a question about ordering from hifi500.com.
When you ordered stello have you recived any mails that said that it has been shipped or did they give you a tracking number?
I've ordered mine on thursday and haven't got any responce... is this normal?
At least I got a tracking number from Christine when I ordered. Remember also that it takes time for your money to get to the Korea first. Atleast with my order they waited until my money had arrived into their bank account before sending the product. I'm sure everything is alright with your order. Their customer service is top notch but you can still always email Christine if you want to.
post #302 of 496
Thanx Force Majeure.
I'll wait a few days before emailing, coz I think that only today they recieved my money, according to my bank anyway.
post #303 of 496
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Originally Posted by mybeat View Post
I've got a question about ordering from hifi500.com.
When you ordered stello have you recived any mails that said that it has been shipped or did they give you a tracking number?
I've ordered mine on thursday and haven't got any responce... is this normal?
I received an e-mail from HiFi500 confirming the PayPal transfer followed by another e-mail with the tracking number. The DAC and amp arrived within four days of placing the order. Outstanding service!
post #304 of 496
As long as this thread is up again....

Does anyone else besides me find more depth, truer sounding vocals and instruments and stronger bass with the 192 upsampler turned off....?

When I engage it, the volume goes up slightly, the bass decreases slightly and everything moves onto the same plane with a loss of depth.

What do you guys hear with the upsampler?

USG

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post #305 of 496
To be honest I don't hear any difference between up-sampler on/off.
post #306 of 496
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To be honest I don't hear any difference between up-sampler on/off.
Hi fl00r

That's curious... I wonder why?

What are you listening to?

USG

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post #307 of 496
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Hi fl00r

That's curious... I wonder why?

What are you listening to?

USG

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Don't know....I can only guess: my ears are 41 y/o and/or my ears are not as trained as most ppl here

Music: Radiohead, Smashing Pumpkins, Beck, The Who, Rage against the machine, Eels, Pearl Jam, etc, etc.

Ben
post #308 of 496
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Originally Posted by fl00r View Post
Don't know....I can only guess: my ears are 41 y/o and/or my ears are not as trained as most ppl here

Music: Radiohead, Smashing Pumpkins, Beck, The Who, Rage against the machine, Eels, Pearl Jam, etc, etc.

Ben
Hi Ben

Maybe we have to be on the same page to hear the same things...

If you are able to use your computer as a source for this test, the following is my configuration with both optical and USB plugged into the computer.....

computer as a source> StelloDA100>Foobar 9.5>ASIO4All 2.8>GS-1>K701s (since we both have them) with a slight bass boost on the foobar equalizer.

That configuration has a slightly brighter (and I almost hesitate to use the terms cleaner or clearer) presentation than the optical setting of "KS Realtek AC97 Audio"... originally I thought ASIO and optical sounded the same, but that doesn't seem to be the case any longer...

This is what my foobar boost looks like: one click up 156 Hz, 2 clicks at 110 and so on



My ASIO configuration looks like this:



If you are able approximate this configuration, can you hear any differences between optical and ASIO USB?

If we are able to calibrate our rigs in this way, we will be able to listen to the upsampling from the same frame of reference....

If all of this is too much, just say so and I will delete this post.....

About your old ears.... not to worry, mine are older...

Eric
post #309 of 496
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Careful with your EQ setup, your max boost should be 0 if you want to avoid clipping, so in a sense you should actually reduce all the frequencies that you are not boosting...

And I agree, to me it seemed that with upsampling things were not quite as vibrant.
post #310 of 496
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Originally Posted by MaloS View Post
Careful with your EQ setup, your max boost should be 0 if you want to avoid clipping, so in a sense you should actually reduce all the frequencies that you are not boosting...

And I agree, to me it seemed that with upsampling things were not quite as vibrant.
To me the difference if it's there is very small, bypass mode seems to sound a tad grainier, 192 smoother. But that's me.
post #311 of 496
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Originally Posted by MaloS View Post

Careful with your EQ setup, your max boost should be 0 if you want to avoid clipping, so in a sense you should actually reduce all the frequencies that you are not boosting....
You are absolutely correct Malo. I noticed clipping right away but there were only a few ways to control that. One would be to click the "Auto Level" button on the equalizer but I didn't like the effect that had on the sound quality. Another way was to place the "Equalizer" between the "Resampler" and the "Advanced Limiter" in the DSP Manager. This seemed to avoid clipping without damaging the sound quality so that is what I am using unless I find another way.

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Originally Posted by MaloS View Post

And I agree, to me it seemed that with upsampling things were not quite as vibrant.
Vibrant is not really the word I'd use, although I can relate to what you're saying. There is a greater sense of space and dimension without upsampling. Once engaged, the instruments and vocals seemed to move closer together dynamic range wise. The more I think about it, it sounds like a slight compression is going on because the overall sound gets slightly louder while the bass becomes less pronounced (quieter) and formerly distant cymbals move forward and become louder.

USG

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post #312 of 496
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
To me the difference if it's there is very small, bypass mode seems to sound a tad grainier, 192 smoother. But that's me.
Hi Andrew

I agree with you that the difference is small and takes a lot of listening to be able to identify what is going on....

I also can agree with you that the upsampling sounds smoother but it's at the expense of air and space. The more I AB between the two settings, the more I realize that this particular upsampling implementation reduces the dynamic range in addition to filling in the gaps. This is not necessarily a bad thing though.... some music sounds better and more alive with a slight compression, especially if you listen quietly like I do.

USG

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post #313 of 496
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Originally Posted by upstateguy View Post
Another way was to place the "Equalizer" between the "Resampler" and the "Advanced Limiter" in the DSP Manager.
What does Resampler do there?
post #314 of 496
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
What does Resampler do there?
It is set to resample to 44100 since I am using a computer as a source and most of what I listen to is internet radio....

for instance, I'm listening to "The Lounge Cafe" streaming at 320kbps as I type this....

How do you have Foobar set up?

USG

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post #315 of 496
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Originally Posted by upstateguy View Post
It is set to resample to 44100 since I am using a computer as a source and most of what I listen to is internet radio....

for instance, I'm listening to "The Lounge Cafe" streaming at 320kbps as I type this....

How do you have Foobar set up?

USG

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ASIO4ALL playback output, maxed out vol, no replay gain, out of DSP only Advanced Limiter, all music in FLAC. You shouldn't resample, let Stello deal with that, what sampling rate your internet radio is in?
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