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post #151 of 496
I think using an optical out is theoretically better but in reality the differences are not really audible. I haven't AB-ed the two and am speaking just from casual listening.
post #152 of 496
I've heard optical produces more jitter but I'm not sure. In any case, I use the USB connection and it sounds great. I'm sure it's bit perfect and it supports ASIO4ALL. On the other hand, I have an audigy 2zs which supposedly supports asio and I don't think it's bit perfect because it sounds with some distortion and lack of dinamics. I think using USB would be a safe bet for you.

Regards,
Diego
post #153 of 496
Has anyone tried using the optical input of this dac and an external cd player and notice the static/distortion on 'hot' mastered CDs?
post #154 of 496
bump for post-honeymoon impressions.

i'm in the market for a dac and the stello da100 is the leading candidate.
now that you guys have had them for awhile, have any weaknesses revealed themselves?

do your initial enthusiastic impressions remain the same?

and more specifically, any opinions on how well the da100 pairs with grados?
post #155 of 496
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I suggest being careful with Grado/DA100 pairing since both have high treble energy. If you have a warm amp in the chain you should be fine though.

GS1000 + DA100 is not a suggested pairing.

Otherwise, I stand by what I said here.
post #156 of 496
Thanks for that MaloS.

You told me what I wanted to hear and what I didn't want to hear. I was really hoping that all these comments about accentuated bass and warmth might be a good match for Grados.

Due to current circumstances, I wanted to avoid tubes in any of my components, but I may have to reconsider them in an amp.
post #157 of 496
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Originally Posted by PhaedrusX View Post
Thanks for that MaloS.

You told me what I wanted to hear and what I didn't want to hear. I was really hoping that all these comments about accentuated bass and warmth might be a good match for Grados.

Due to current circumstances, I wanted to avoid tubes in any of my components, but I may have to reconsider them in an amp.
Don't jump to a conclusion, that's just one opinion that is not supported by everyone. I, for instance, cannot hear any "high treble energy" with DA100. GS-1 and GLite, that I use, are too transparent to hide such thing if it was there. And all my "bright" phones: W5000, DT880, as well as, gone now, MS2i, pair extremely well with DA100. I also do not remember of anyone else describing DA100 highs as overly bright.

Sorry, Stas, seems like we might have another disagreement.
post #158 of 496
Thats good to hear, as I'm planning on getting one as soon as I recover from my upcoming wedding.
post #159 of 496
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
Don't jump to a conclusion, that's just one opinion that is not supported by everyone. I, for instance, cannot hear any "high treble energy" with DA100. And my amps, GS-1 and GLite, are probably the most transparent on the market to not hide such thing if it was there. All my "bright" phones: W5000 and DT880, as well as gone now MS2i, pair extremely well with DA100. I also do not remember of anyone else describing DA100 highs as overly bright.

Sorry, Stas, seems like we have another disagreement.
Likewise, I hear no pronounced treble in my setup. In fact, I find it remarkably neutral.
post #160 of 496
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
Don't jump to a conclusion, that's just one opinion that is not supported by everyone. I, for instance, cannot hear any "high treble energy" with DA100. And my amps, GS-1 and GLite, are probably the most transparent on the market to not hide such thing if it was there. All my "bright" phones: W5000 and DT880, as well as gone now MS2i, pair extremely well with DA100. I also do not remember of anyone else describing DA100 highs as overly bright.

Sorry, Stas, seems like we have another disagreement.
Differentiate here a bit, treble energy is a term based around perception. Grados have over-pronounced treble. HD650 has high treble energy. Stello lays on the neutral side of things, but there is a strong sense of prat, which results from strong pronunciation of bass and treble energy. The brighter DAC1 does not have the same 'energy' sense.

Just a bunch of examples describing what I mean.
post #161 of 496
thanks Andrew_Wot and LeChuck for inputting your opinions.

as for "high treble energy" or "over pronounced treble," i'm not too sure what fine differences you guys are referring too.

semantics aside, i have no aversion to treble per se.
my concern centers around any "harshness" that would contribute to listening fatigue. i want to be able to have long listening sessions without tiring my ears out.

the setup, as i envision it now, will look like this:
da100 > xin reference > rs-2

does anyone see any problems in this system in terms of overly bright, too harsh, or fatiguing?
post #162 of 496
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semantics aside, i have no aversion to treble per se.
my concern centers around any "harshness" that would contribute to listening fatigue. i want to be able to have long listening sessions without tiring my ears out.
I don't quite understand what MaloS means by treble energy, which is probably a sign that my audiophile lexicon is weaker than most around here, but that being said I still can't say I notice any prominent characteristics of the DA100.

In response to your concern regarding harshness, I can say that I preferred the DA100 to the Benchmark DAC1, which I found to have slightly pronounced treble and it sounded a little shrill. Obviously the DAC1 is well regarded here, and I am not by any means making a universal statement, but to my ears the DA100 was more natural in its presentation and a little smoother than the Benchmark.

Fatigue is probably the last word I would use in a description of the DA100, and that isn't to say it lacks detail. I think people often correlate a lot of resolution to fatiguing and unlistenable sound, which I don't think is true association.
post #163 of 496
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Originally Posted by LeChuck View Post
Fatigue is probably the last word I would use in a description of the DA100, and that isn't to say it lacks detail. I think people often correlate a lot of resolution to fatiguing and unlistenable sound, which I don't think is true association.
On the other hand, resolution implies less fatiguing qualities. Resolution -> resolving power -> ability to reproduce detail without grain basically (in layman's terms). Hence very detailed headphones are not necessarily very resolving. Shrillness seems to also come from poor resolution on a product.
post #164 of 496
Just got mine today Happy with the sound, a nice upgrade from X-Fi.

But I have a problem when using this DAC via ASIO4ALL v.2+USB. There's some pops while playing (is this jittering?) and for once in a while, there is buzzing sound in the left or right ear of my cans, the noise will disappear when I pause the track and then resume. I guess the culprit is ASIO, since turning the DAC off and on again doesn't solve the problem. Anyone knows the solution?

My ASIO setting is as follow:
ASIO buffer size = 2048 samples
Latency compensation = both set to zero
Use hardware buffer = off
Kernel buffer = 4
Always resample 44.1 <---> 48 = off
Force WDM driver to 16 bits = off

Any help is appreciated.
post #165 of 496
As far as the popping sound, this seems to be an issue with all usb dac when running asio4all. One thing that helps is to minimize foobar while playing audio tracks. Try that and see if that helps.
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