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post #61 of 110
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Originally Posted by Duggeh View Post
You could always write an emial to Nordost, explaining about how many of their products you already own, tell them about your quest for cabling and how youve enjoyed their Valhalla cable so much. Point them to you being one of the biggest cable lovers on a big internet forum like this and ask if they will lend you a review sample. Then you can compare it to your Valhalla, find that its better and then cry when you have to give it back, or get arrested after you refuse to give it back.
Just DONT send them pictures of your room! or use your patrick82 screen name, they will google it and end up finding some pics of your room

companies like this dont understand your setup patrick
post #62 of 110
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Originally Posted by gotchaforce View Post
Just DONT send them pictures of your room! or use your patrick82 screen name, they will google it and end up finding some pics of your room

companies like this dont understand your setup patrick
They already know about this thread, why wouldn't they?

I wonder how deep the silver plating is of the Odin. I'm hoping it's less deep than Valhalla because then it's more neutral and I don't need to upgrade (I save $$$$$). I like the edgy sound of 78 microns silver plating, 60 microns sounds too flat and boring.
post #63 of 110
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Originally Posted by Patrick82 View Post
They already know about this thread, why wouldn't they?

I wonder how deep the silver plating is of the Odin. I'm hoping it's less deep than Valhalla because then it's more neutral and I don't need to upgrade (I save $$$$$). I like the edgy sound of 78 microns silver plating, 60 microns sounds too flat and boring.
Wait nordost knows about this thread? how?

oh well just email them as some other guy
post #64 of 110

Hi-Fi+ Odin Review

Here is the magazine review of Odin: http://www.nordost.co.uk/index.asp

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The bottom end, perhaps as a result of switching to fewer, heavier gauge conductors, is significantly weightier and more powerful, yet more clearly defined too, with more space and air around and below notes. At the opposite extreme, notes carry more energy and information, but are accompanied by less glare and hash.
The conductors are fatter than before. I'm scared of too much bass. I hope it's not fatter than 20awg. 22awg Valhalla is already too thick.
post #65 of 110

Specs for Odin interconnect

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Originally Posted by Patrick82 View Post
I wonder how deep the silver plating is of the Odin. I'm hoping it's less deep than Valhalla because then it's more neutral and I don't need to upgrade (I save $$$$$). I like the edgy sound of 78 microns silver plating, 60 microns sounds too flat and boring.
http://www.highendcable.co.uk/Nordos...terconnect.htm
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The conductors used in the ODIN are made from 99.99999% oxygen free copper with an extrided silver surface of 85 microns.

Looks like Nordost has been reading my threads. Now where do I get the money?

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Specifications
Insulation: High purity class 1.003Flurinated Ethylene Propylene FEP
Construction: Precision Dual Micro Mono Filiment and TSC design
Conductors: 8 x 23 AWG TSC
Material: 85 microns of extruded silver over 99.99999% OFC
Capacitance: 19.0pF/ft
Dielectric constant: 1.1
Inductance: 0.07uH
Propagation Delay: 90% speed of light
Overall Shield coverage: 100% TSC
Terminations: WBT NEXTGEN silver-plated RCA or silver plated Furutech XLR
Wow, 23awg is the perfect size I said in an old thread.


I want to use the Odin interconnect for my headphones! Looks like a good design, conductors #2, #4, #6, #8 for the signals. Can just get a pair of 3 meter Odin interconnects and split the 2nd cable into 1.5m interconnects...
post #66 of 110

Speaker cable specs

http://www.highendcable.co.uk/Nordos...er%20Cable.htm

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Specifications
Insulation: High purity class 1.003Flurinated Ethylene Propylene FEP
Construction: Precision Dual Micro Mono Filiment
Conductors: 24 x 20 AWG
Material: 85 microns of extruded silver over 99.99999% OFC
Capacitance: 9.2pF/ft
Inductance: 0.15uH
Propagation Delay: 98% speed of light
Terminations: Rhodium plated Z plugs or spades

Speaker cable has 20awg conductors! It looks like the 23awg interconnect is the best match for my headphones then!
post #67 of 110
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Originally Posted by Patrick82 View Post
http://www.highendcable.co.uk/Nordos...er%20Cable.htm




Speaker cable has 20awg conductors! It looks like the 23awg interconnect is the best match for my headphones then!
Good luck patrick.
What are you going to eat now? you ate beans when you bought all valhalla, those odin cables are even way more expensive....so, what will be left to eat?!

While i like Nordost cables, i am using them myself, 18.000 dollars is way to seep for me. Also second hand these would cost an arm and a legg.

I think my cables allready sound pretty good.
post #68 of 110
A 0.5m pair of unterminated Odin interconnects is only £1250, when paying £10 000 for the first 1m. Group buy anyone?

£7500 just for the connectors??!!
post #69 of 110
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Originally Posted by Patrick82 View Post
A 0.5m pair of unterminated Odin interconnects is only £1250, when paying £10 000 for the first 1m. Group buy anyone?

£7500 just for the connectors??!!
Now, that is much better, but i bet they don't let you have it for that price, unterminated.

I am quite sure you won't get a group buy started for such an expensive cable. You allready know what's happening in threads concerning high end cables.

I see you wanna sell your krell?! Wich amp do you have in mind? Just curious.
post #70 of 110
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Originally Posted by tourmaline View Post
Now, that is much better, but i bet they don't let you have it for that price, unterminated.
£7500 for the plugs is still too extreme, the plugs cost only a few hundred bucks and the rest is for the termination cost, how hard is it to poke with the soldering iron? Maybe they have hired blind people to do the soldering job, when they solder they need to use their finger as a guide and then they get burned and require extra money as compensation.

Day1: "Oh no, my finger just melted, I require a few extra grand for this job".
Day2: "It happened again."
Day10: "I don't have any fingers left."

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Originally Posted by tourmaline View Post
I am quite sure you won't get a group buy started for such an expensive cable. You allready know what's happening in threads concerning high end cables.
I wish people would hear it for themselves. Too bad my test drive Valkyrja headphone cable is still lost in shipping, now nobody hears it, maybe the mailman took it and is using with his earbuds + iPod. It's that good I guess.

In the future people will hear the truth about cables, little later that I wanted, but it will come.


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Originally Posted by tourmaline View Post
I see you wanna sell your krell?! Wich amp do you have in mind? Just curious.
I already have a PS Audio GCC-100 amp which I bought over a year ago. I was raving about it before I put the Krell for sale, now nobody wants the Krell.
post #71 of 110
Patrick, where did you find the Odin unterminated? Anyway, I just read a review of the Odins and the wood thing is there not only for looks, but to deter retermination and modification. I'm not sure how a piece of wood a few inches away from the end can do that. Also, I'm pretty impressed by the (claimed) effective yet flexible shielding Nordost is using for the Odin. The JPS Labs Aluminata, for example, uses a few kilograms of solid metal shielding to achieve similar effects. However, I read that because speaker cables usually deal with impedance loads of 4-8ohms, the effects of EM radiation on the cable is minimal. Anyway, the review of the Odin was done by HiFi+. I won't waste your time by asking you to read it or leave you with any suspense. The Odin is basically the mose amazing cable the reviewer has ever used and at the very end, calls the Valhalla great value compared to the Odin. There we go. Everyone go and bulk buy Valhalla instead.
post #72 of 110
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Originally Posted by milkpowder View Post
Patrick, where did you find the Odin unterminated?
If you call your local Nordost dealer, they can get a quote from Nordost for any cable they make, in any length, unterminated.
post #73 of 110
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Originally Posted by Patrick82 View Post
I wish people would hear it for themselves. Too bad my test drive Valkyrja headphone cable is still lost in shipping, now nobody hears it, maybe the mailman took it and is using with his earbuds + iPod. It's that good I guess.

In the future people will hear the truth about cables, little later that I wanted, but it will come.
Part of me thinks it's not lost and someone just kept it and told you they mailed it out.
post #74 of 110
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Originally Posted by milkpowder View Post
Actually, I think the Nordost SPM is the fastest at 0.95c closely followed by the Red Dawn at 0.94c. The Valhalla is mere 0.87c. Pitiful



To quote Nordost:
The ODIN cables use two proprietary Nordost technologies: our patented Dual Mono-Filament technology, used in both the ODIN interconnect and loudspeaker cables, and our patent pending Total Signal Control technology used in the ODIN interconnects.

So two new "technologies" - duo Mono-Filament vs single mono-filament in the Valhalla and some new "Total Signal Control". Pretty damn vague if you ask me
Anybody know what is the patent number? I did a quick patent search at the USPTO and can't find anything.
post #75 of 110
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Originally Posted by gotchaforce View Post
No offense but this is quite telling of all people who buy cables.
really, everyone needs it to get sound out of your system. If all, he's most likely thinking BIG! More tweaks, more paper, more of everything!
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