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post #31 of 110
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Originally Posted by immtbiker View Post
Wa! $473.50 per "mil-spec RCA-plug" made by a "mil-spec machine shop, which supplies parts for projects so secret they don't actually know what they're building"! Fancy vacuum dielectric, C=4pF/ft... I like
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So he finally managed to electrocute himself! I really need to keep up with the news around here more often!
Probably had an ERS accident. That stuff conducts like mad
post #32 of 110
Siltech Compass Lakes (Ethan had them at a NYC meet):

http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/s...r_followup.htm

$26,700 for a pair of 8 feet speaker cables.

Only $9K for interconnects from our buddy Yikes.
post #33 of 110
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Siltech Compass Lakes (Ethan had them at a NYC meet):

http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/s...r_followup.htm

$26,700 for a pair of 8 feet speaker cables.
The sad part is a set of speaker cables made from pure platinum would still cost less than that.
post #34 of 110
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The sad part is a set of speaker cables made from pure platinum would still cost less than that.
yes but idiots love feeling like idiots if they bought something like platinum which actually would be resellable then they couldnt feel like huge idiots could they?

also LOL at transparent opus speaker cables that are $60,000 a pair

remember that ultimate audiophile room (the one in the barn), that guy had 2 pairs of those.

What a tool
post #35 of 110
Funny we mention Siltech. When I was doing a little write up on the new PCOFC digital coax cable from Beresford I discovered that the Siltech PCOFC cable is about 8 times more expensive than the Beresford, had less strands and was generally lesser specified than the Beresford.
post #36 of 110
OMG!! Do they come with a RCA to mini??? I MUST get these to connect my pa2v2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
post #37 of 110
I find this topic to be inappropriate.
post #38 of 110
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... but don't you think it's quite improbably that one of the most prestigious audio cable companies in the world would try to con people? ...
The entire high-end cable industry is built on this premise R&D... right.
post #39 of 110
Nordost is only "prestigious" in the sense that they charge a lot of money for their products and advertise heavily in Stereophile. This is the same way Bose is prestigious. Just to a slightly different market.

It's the same with other high-end cable vendors. Virtual Dynamics, for instance, has a great website, lots of happy customers, and charges an enormous amount for their products so you could call them prestigious, but the reality is that the company is run by a half-crazy guy who lives in the middle of nowhere, who once advertised that God would bless you if you bought his cables, and who stuffs aquarium pebbles into garden hoses and seals the ends with hot glue then charges thousands of dollars for the result....
post #40 of 110
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I find this topic to be inappropriate.
Hahahaha.. I find that remark to be very appropiate... Hehe
post #41 of 110
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Actually, I think the Nordost SPM is the fastest at 0.95c closely followed by the Red Dawn at 0.94c. The Valhalla is mere 0.87c. Pitiful
My $1.32 Ratshack flashlight from 1993 is rated at 1.00c -- what a bargain!
post #42 of 110
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Very little is however spent on pointing out the technical aspect of the materials used to make up leads. It almost looks like a conspiracy. The majority use inferior OFC, whilst talking up skin effects etc. I recently bought a set of digital coax cables made of PCOFC simply because it is a superior signal medium. But you won't see many cable "manufacturers" use it, simply because most of them don't actually MAKE cables. They have little to no knowledge on the scientific side of things, other than to throw buzz words about in order to sound technical. In the mean time many good cables get overlooked in preference to glossy advertising.
Anyone has any idea WHERE these kind of cables are made? And how much it would cost (materials, labour) to manufacture such a $10.000+ cable?
post #43 of 110
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Anyone has any idea WHERE these kind of cables are made? And how much it would cost (materials, labour) to manufacture such a $10.000+ cable?
Can't find any info on the Odin however for the valhalla it's made of oxygen free copper and silver. Although the silver is only used for plating.

In terms of how much they cost to make? Probably about $50. Raw materials - not Much probably less than $20 then you use a machine spindel to acctually construct the cable probably in 1km lengths, then chop into smaller lengths and add termination.


On a side note in reference to speed, anyone with a brain can tell you that the only important factor is that it is a constant.
post #44 of 110
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Anyone has any idea WHERE these kind of cables are made? And how much it would cost (materials, labour) to manufacture such a $10.000+ cable?
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Originally Posted by Lawrenzini View Post
Can't find any info on the Odin however for the valhalla it's made of oxygen free copper and silver. Although the silver is only used for plating.

In terms of how much they cost to make? Probably about $50. Raw materials - not Much probably less than $20 then you use a machine spindel to acctually construct the cable probably in 1km lengths, then chop into smaller lengths and add termination.


On a side note in reference to speed, anyone with a brain can tell you that the only important factor is that it is a constant.
Only someone in the business would be able to tell you. They most probably charge a massive premium over material and manufacturing costs, but that's expected of every company in high end audio. If you believe in all that voodoo technology, then there is really no alternative but to buy their stuff. Normal DIY cable makers, no matter how good they are, won't be able to source the same super high purity copper or braid and construct geometries that even come close to rivalling commercially-made cables. No offence to any of the cable builders who grace this forum with their wonderfully built cables, but if you ask them to do something exotic like incorporate a vacuum dielectric or 60x micro-litz using special 57micron silver plated 9N copper, they probably wouldn't be able to do it. I'm not saying all this fancy technology is required for good sound. All I'm saying is that a lot of people want to know that their cables have cutting edge technology even if the sonic benefits can't be explained by tried and proven physics.

It's a bit silly to compare retail price to "cost to make". Nothing in the world available on a commercial scale is available at "cost to make" and material costs. Look everywhere around you: watches, wallets, chilli sauce, violins, toothpaste, mobile phones, glasses, cars, fountain pens, shoes, etc... Cables are no exception to this "rule" and neither are your precious headphones.
post #45 of 110
Wire never mattered soo much, I always used wire to get the job done, if you play me a blind test between $60,000 $18,000 and $5 cable I doubt I would be able to tell the difference.
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