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Hydrogenaudio don't like us (Head-Fi) very much?

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I was Googling stuff for ASIO support & M-Audio USB Transport, and I found some posts on Hydrogenaudio. I thought to myself "Oh hey, HA knows usually knows this stuff as much as anyone here."

I have not read all their forums or posts, but there seems to be afew over there that don't think to highly of our opinions.

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The guys over at Head-Fi.com "think" (parts of audiophillia are purely placebo, but if it sounds better to you, weather proven otherwise or not, it still sounds better to you right?) that KS and ASIO are better then direct sound or waveout. So, in a sence, for "better sounding" choose KS or ASIO.
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Just don't listen to guys on head-fi.com. If they think and "feel" that asio or KS sounds better than DS output just ask him to do some abx tests and post results here. At this moment most HA members just don't care about their claims....
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Some people do perceive a difference when upsampling even mp3s to 96000 or above. Of course, you would have to have a very good setup to achieve that. But just head over to head-fi and there are many people there that would share their experiences with upsampling. As for me, I do it just in case. Doesnt hurt does it? lol
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Head-Fi = Placebo Heaven.
post #2 of 86
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post #3 of 86
Well, I'm not going to argue about that last quote :/

As for the first and second, I use ASIO because I can. And technically it is direct to the sound card with no resampling. So if you can use it with no extra trouble (like me), why not?
post #4 of 86
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Same here 003. I use ASIO cause I can and it's bit-perfect.
post #5 of 86
I listen with ears not meters.
post #6 of 86
When I had it set up, ASIO was, dare I say, dramatically better. I don't use a PC as a source so I didn't go back to it after I installed Vista.
post #7 of 86
Well Head-fi is DBT free, i.e. We trust our ear and we are annoyed went people tell us not to trust our ears.

Hydrogen audio is you cannot state anything unless you have hard data to prove it. Don't thrust any of your sense only hard data.

Opposite philosophies
post #8 of 86
The kMixer issue is not imaginary; it is easily tested and verified by anyone who has a home theatre receiver that can decode DTS.

That's a good illustration of why Hydrogen Audio is useless in general. They spread misinformation because they adopt a skeptical bias about everything rather than adopting an analytical bias. Then they pretend this is "objective." A position is not objective if one fails to do simple inquiries.

I don't mean to say that Head-Fi is perfect. However, there is a good mix of people here, both people in the deep end and skeptics.
post #9 of 86
Meh, we're just better!
post #10 of 86
'dey be hata's dawg
post #11 of 86
I was a little snappy before, hence the delete, although I'll say this: There seems to be a lot of negativity around Head-Fi at certain other sites... none of which have the community and breadth of Head-Fi (at least with regard to the hobby).

'dey be hata's indeed, dawg. 'dey be hata's indeed.
post #12 of 86
I am a skeptic of many things, including cables affecting sound, but ASIO/directsound is not one of them. I've A/B'ed a dozen times, and each time the difference is immediately obvious. The difference between ASIO and DS is as big as the difference between the outputs of my tube amp and straight from the EMU0404.

It does apparently seem to be case-specific though, depending on what device you use the difference may not be as big or even existent.
post #13 of 86
That's 'cause we used to date their women... Some guys are just sore losers...
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That's 'cause we used to date their women... Some guys are just sore losers...
Wait, don't we want to be dating their women now? How are they sore losers if they are with the women we used to date? Unless you're talking about Jen. She was one crazy ***** and they can keep her.
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That's 'cause we used to date their women... Some guys are just sore losers...
I wonder if that a-hole bus driver frequents hydrogen...
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