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post #16 of 54
5/14/07 at 12:43am

ODIN

Do yourself a favor and give serious consideration to building a pair of Odin MKII from a kit vendor in the US called Madisound.

I own a pair down form these and the speakers are simply stunning.

They use SEAS drivers. Buying something like this sight unseen is a huge leap of faith. Here is what sold me:

These speakers have two woofers and a mid tweeter. There is (was?) a consumer retail speaker by Jamo that has the same drivers -- except only one woofer and one tweeter. I went to audition the Jamo so I could hear what I was considering buying.

The guy in the store said they did not stock that Jamo, but used to. I asked how much. $3000 US. I said why did you stop selling them? Nobody would buy a speaker that small for $3K. I asked how they sounded. He said they are the best speaker he ever heard. That sold me at $1000 for the Odins (A modle down from Odin MKII)

The cabinents are extremely high grade, and the components are very good.

This speaker would easily cost more than $3000 retail, but since you screw it together and solder it yourself, you save a lot of money.

I have nothing to do with Madisound. The speakers are just that good. Very natural, uncolored sound, with tight, deep punchy bass. Female vocals are like she is standing in the room. I think the kit is $1600 US.

Good luck.
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post #17 of 54
5/14/07 at 12:58am
Going DIY will give you really good value, consider also some Axioms, they do sound very good and they are a lot cheaper...
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post #18 of 54
5/14/07 at 1:34am
I hope you have a good large room to play them in. I hear the JBLs are killer dillers.
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post #19 of 54
5/14/07 at 7:56am
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heh my room is pretty small, will it be an issue?
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post #20 of 54
5/14/07 at 8:02am
if you want to go the DIY route but dont have teh skills/tools, i know a guy here in brisbane who can probably help you out for a small fee. he builds really good quality stuff, including horns

and out of curiosity.. pm me how much you're lookin for for the l3000? or is it $2000? usd/aud?
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post #21 of 54
5/14/07 at 8:24am
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Originally Posted by hugz View Post
if you want to go the DIY route but dont have teh skills/tools, i know a guy here in brisbane who can probably help you out for a small fee. he builds really good quality stuff, including horns

and out of curiosity.. pm me how much you're lookin for for the l3000? or is it $2000? usd/aud?
Oh cool...Isn't going rate like $2100-2500USD? I found them uncomfortable last week because I have an infected parotid gland lol, they should be better next week. I'm going to sell either the l3000 or the HP-2...
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post #22 of 54
5/14/07 at 8:43am
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Oh cool...Isn't going rate like $2100-2500USD? I found them uncomfortable last week because I have an infected parotid gland lol, they should be better next week. I'm going to sell either the l3000 or the HP-2...
I wouldn't know anything about the going rate of the L3000.. just SLIGHTLY out of my pricerange :P you must be the first person ever to chose a grado over the L3000 for comfort though :P

back on topic (sorry).. good luck with the speakers! always audition before you buy is my only advice (where possible)
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post #23 of 54
5/14/07 at 8:46am
I am a huge fan of horns, and I know Hugz is too, but its a totaly unique sound
DEff not a refrence frequency response, but damn they are fun
I would suggest you look into them, but deff try and hear all the diff speakers you are thinking about
There are not words that can explain a sound well enough for me to spend $1000 on it
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post #24 of 54
5/14/07 at 9:29am
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I wouldn't know anything about the going rate of the L3000.. just SLIGHTLY out of my pricerange :P you must be the first person ever to chose a grado over the L3000 for comfort though :P

back on topic (sorry).. good luck with the speakers! always audition before you buy is my only advice (where possible)
Haha the HP-2 are lighter, I have an infection at the moment so the L3000 are really uncomfy. I didn't know I had it until a few days ago...The L3000 should be comfy again any time soon lol
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post #25 of 54
5/14/07 at 12:40pm
Small rooms limit your potential. Most large speakers require large rooms to reveal their potential. Consider something with controlled dispersion and room treatment. Good thing your budget is so large.

However, to say that the hornshoppe horns can be built and beaten for less than $200 is a gross overstatement. You discount the cost of labor involved in creating and finishing the sucker and the expertise needed in fine tuning the design. Most importantly, building cabinets take a lot of effort and time. If you still want to give building single driver rear horns shot, here's another option http://www.geocities.com/rbrines1/ . After building 3 pairs of speakers, though, I'm personally done building any for a long while. I plan on just buying my next pair.
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post #26 of 54
5/14/07 at 4:56pm
From what I understand the drivers in the horn shoppe are just a slightly modified Fostex 4". You could buy a treated pair of Fostex 4" and then build a pair of A126s and from what I have read and understand, due the the superior design, get a better sound.
The flat mouth and lack of a device to prevent the back wave from re entering the mouth provides a big problem right there. When I added the rear deflectors to my Horns it was a vast improvment from without. Then add the lack of a Supra Baffle and you get a pretty serious problem.
All IMO and from my experiance.

Granted I did spend 30+ hours on my horns, so at what I make thats ~$450 in labor. Im not saying its the most economical thing for everyone, but if you have tools, or access to them, and a pretty good grasp on carpentry then you can get some good results.

For the record my horns came in at $80 for drivers and hardware + 80 for wood. Give $15 for gass and other random stuff and its at $175.
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post #27 of 54
5/15/07 at 12:05am
Plus, unless you have done so and not updated your picture, you have not finished your speakers. That can easily add another 10-20+ hours and a real headache. Placing the speakers into the corner of a room, as they are designed to be placed, would accomplish much the same thing as the rear wave deflector you are speaking of. I don't know if the design needs a supra baffle...single driver designs aren't going to measure well, anyway, so I suppose it's a matter of degree. Just having one doesn't necessarily make a design better. Anyway, I have no personal desire to build any more single driver speakers, so I'll leave you guys be.
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post #28 of 54
5/15/07 at 2:53am
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I don't know about Horns as my room has a funny shape, but i'm considering a pair of EAS Odins or Thors...What do you guys think of these? I don't mind a pair of floorstanders...
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post #29 of 54
5/15/07 at 6:25am
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Originally Posted by phergus_25 View Post
I am a huge fan of horns, and I know Hugz is too, but its a totaly unique sound
DEff not a refrence frequency response, but damn they are fun
I would suggest you look into them, but deff try and hear all the diff speakers you are thinking about
There are not words that can explain a sound well enough for me to spend $1000 on it
haha yes horns are great

However, i'm not entirely sure if its the kind of thing you want to spend money on without ever hearing them. They're *different* so it's probably a love or hate kinda thing

I was at a guy's house and heard a great setup - b200 in open baffle (single drivers), with two really good subwoofers. Fantastic setup which is similar in heart to horns with a lot less construction time and a bit more "normal" sound
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post #30 of 54
5/15/07 at 7:06am
How about a set of Minipods. I use them as an alternative to my Headphones and they sound very nice - B & W drivers I believe in a very smart enclosure.

http://www.scandyna-speakers.com/htm...od_product.asp

and here

www.podspeakers.com
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