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post #181 of 204
This amp sounds great with the HD650s. I'm listening to them at the moment. It drives them with consummate ease. I would describe the sound as warmish, but not overly warm, with a wonderful midrange brimming with detail, and very deep and articulate bass.

The amp comes with 2 Chinese made 6N14s and 2 6N3s. These tubes, to my ears, sound very good, but the western equivalents, according to some on this thread, are better: those equivalents are the EL84s and 6BQ5 for the 6N14s and the 5670s, 2C51s and 396A for the 6N3s.

There are various brands to buy for both these tube types, but maybe someone more knowledgable than me can comment. But from my experince, MULLARD have an archetypical tube sound: warm, lush and open.

I bought my P100 from CATTYLINK, a Hong Kong based distributor of Chinese audio:

http://www.cattylink.com/page147.html
post #182 of 204
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Originally Posted by Ozer View Post
Is this amp any good with Sennheiser HD650 ?? Is it light or warm sounding ? I don't like to bright sounding amps... I'm pretty new to the tube world, so I'm wondering how do you change tubes ? is it hard ? or is it like changing a light bulb ? I know nothing about tubes, so could someone tell me what tubes I should buy with this amp if I'm using HD650 and want a warm sound... I don't know what types of tubes I have to buy or anything So please help me....


EDIT: BTW, were can I buy this amp ? I found Yarland.eu and thought it was their official site, but I'm not so sure anymore.... When you click order you come to another site called Caps & Coils.... And they're sold out anyways...
If your in the USA you can get it at STO Sound and Vision - speakers, headphones, amplifiers, turntables and accessories on sale /Grado, Mission, Rega, Manley, Paradigm/ for $395 not $495 and ask for Mike.As for the tubes you'll have to open the top cover to do any tube rolling.If your uncomfortable with that you can use the stock tubes for the time being.
post #183 of 204
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If your in the USA you can get it at STO Sound and Vision - speakers, headphones, amplifiers, turntables and accessories on sale /Grado, Mission, Rega, Manley, Paradigm/ for $395 not $495 and ask for Mike.As for the tubes you'll have to open the top cover to do any tube rolling.If your uncomfortable with that you can use the stock tubes for the time being.
Is it hard to open ? Isn't it just some screws or something ?

Is this amp near the performance of the Woo Audio 6 ? 'cause the price for the Yarland isn't that far from the WA6... I won't buy WA6 because of import duties (), but I want to know that I don't throw out money on something not worth the money....

I found it harder to find tubes hear in Sweden then I thought.... I've found some, but those are brands I've never seen someone on this forum posting about....
post #184 of 204
You need a hex screw driver to open the Yarland.I have not heard the Woo so I can't comment on that.Keep in mind you may need to upgrade to better tubes down the road which would raise the overall price.
post #185 of 204
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You need a hex screw driver to open the Yarland.I have not heard the Woo so I can't comment on that.Keep in mind you may need to upgrade to better tubes down the road which would raise the overall price.
I'm aware of the tube price.... I'm not spending a huge amount of money on tubes... So if I buy tubes for a maximum of ~140$ (for all tubes), can that improve the sound much ? Or do I have to spend more money to hear a difference at all ?
post #186 of 204
In my reckoning, the WOO AUDIO 6 is more than twice the price of the YARLAND - $585 to $275. And you're right about the extortionate import duties from the US - in your case 12% duty and 25% VAT.
post #187 of 204
No,for $140 total you should be able to improve on the Yarland significantly.
post #188 of 204
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In my reckoning, the WOO AUDIO 6 is more than twice the price of the YARLAND - $585 to $275. And you're right about the extortionate import duties from the US - in your case 12% duty and 25% VAT.
Where can I buy the Yarland for 275$ ??? If you buy from Yarland.eu it costs 370 euro !! Converted to dollars, that's 530$ !

It maybe sounds weird, but I just lost some interest in this amp.... I wanted an amp that is pretty good for my Sennheiser HD650, so I found WA6 and thought that I should buy it, but then I realized import duties (DAMN YOU DUTIES!), I had to find something inside Europe. I found this amp and it looked great, until now.... I was hoping this was not to far away from WA6 in SQ, but if you say that you can get it for 275$... That can't be near as good as WA6...

I'm going crazy... Are there not any good amp(tube) for maximum 600$ that I can buy in Europe ????
post #189 of 204
Don't be fooled with the delusion that the more it costs the better it sounds: in hifi it's very much a law of diminishing returns, in that any sound improvements are very subtle, a touch more detail and clarity, a wider soundstage, etc, but is it really worth the substantial price increases?

Also what has to be considered is differences between what it costs to build an amp in the US and what it costs in China. Obviously, an amp in the US is considerably more expensive to manufacture, so therefore the retail price of the amp is higher. With China the reverse is true.

The P100 is a great amp with the HD650s. I'm sure the WOO AUDIO 6 is a superb amp also. I thought about buying it, but the import duties were just too expensive. I bought the DARKVOICE 3322 instead. I would put the P100 very definately in the 3322 territory. This is an sweeping statement. The 3322 is better in some areas than the P100, and the P100 is better in some areas than the 3322. They present the music differently, too, but I love them both, and think they both offer wonderful value.

I bought my P100 from Cattylink:

http://www.cattylink.com/page147.html
post #190 of 204
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Originally Posted by Godkin View Post
Don't be fooled with the delusion that the more it costs the better it sounds: in hifi it's very much a law of diminishing returns, in that any sound improvements are very subtle, a touch more detail and clarity, a wider soundstage, etc, but is it really worth the substantial price increases?

Also what has to be considered is differences between what it costs to build an amp in the US and what it costs in China. Obviously, an amp in the US is considerably more expensive to manufacture, so therefore the retail price of the amp is higher. With China the reverse is true.

The P100 is a great amp with the HD650s. I'm sure the WOO AUDIO 6 is a superb amp also. I thought about buying it, but the import duties were just too expensive. I bought the DARKVOICE 3322 instead. I would put the P100 very definately in the 3322 territory. This is an sweeping statement. The 3322 is better in some areas than the P100, and the P100 is better in some areas than the 3322. They present the music differently, too, but I love them both, and think they both offer wonderful value.

I bought my P100 from Cattylink:

P100 (2009 NEW EDITION)

Yeah you're probably right.... I can't find any other anyways... I can handle the price for this one even if import duties implies, but it will get much more expensive then...

I have some questions about Cattylink... First of why do they have ENORMOUS shipping costs ? the amp costs 270$, but with shipping it gets 450$ !! Are they taking a loop around the moon first ?
And another question, I've read on Yarlands own site that they make version of their amps specifically to Europe. Is this that version ? The other versions was bad with the Europeans power cords and stuff... And I think it's weird that you can choose from 220V and 230V, but not 110V and others, plus when it's for Europe they usually only have 220V option that works from 220V-240V... I'm bad at this, but I think we have 230V in Sweden so I should choose that

The import duties will affect everything... If I have to pay it, I will have to use my Yarland with stock tubes, 'cause I don't wanna spend more money right now, if I don't have to pay duties, I will buy tubes that is good, and probably pretty expensive too...
post #191 of 204
You're right, shipping costs are pretty astronomical, but importing it from the US would be even more expensive, and, as far as I'm aware, the Euorpean distributor has neither any P100s in stock nor the 2009 version. Personally, I didn't have to pay any import duty, but I live in the UK and whether that rule applies to Sweden I don't know. We're all meant to be in Europe now, aren't we?

I won't say that the P100 I recieved was a European model. It's most likely a Chinese model. YARLAND want you to buy through THEIR distributors, and pay the full price for their products, so internet sellers like CATTYLINK are strongly disapproved off. But it's not fake either, it's a legitimate item sourced in China.

The P100 I received is also different from the other 2009 versions I've seen. Instead of the usual two headphone sockets, one for low and one for high impedance, my model has a impedance selector switch which allows you to select between high and low impedance headphones. It also appears that some of the components have been upgraded, but I can only comment on that further when I open it up.

The voltage for Sweden is 230v, I think. Anywhere in the range 220v-240v should be fine.
post #192 of 204
This new version sounds fishy to me, not many SET OPT made with multiple output taps as to require a knob. The design is very elusive.
post #193 of 204
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Originally Posted by Ozer View Post
I have some questions about Cattylink... First of why do they have ENORMOUS shipping costs ? the amp costs 270$, but with shipping it gets 450$ !! Are they taking a loop around the moon first ?
$176.87! That's obscene!
post #194 of 204
In my country, it's in European Union, P100 (2008 versiom) cost me 280 Euro (including VAT). Here it's the link: Iti place sa asculti muzica buna in conditii deosebite? Bun venit in club! StereoClub.
post #195 of 204
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Originally Posted by Godkin View Post
Personally, I didn't have to pay any import duty, but I live in the UK and whether that rule applies to Sweden I don't know. We're all meant to be in Europe now, aren't we?
The rules are the same but implementations seem to vary. UK customs seems laxer than most.
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