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post #46 of 53
6/6/07 at 3:31pm
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Originally Posted by EnOYiN View Post
Have you tried ABXing that?

I know I couldn't hear the difference on my portable.
Yep, I have. For example with a cd from Charlotte Gainsbourg. I downloaded them (mp3) from the internet first and the songs were somewhat bassheavy. Just too much. Then I bought the cd and putted it on my ipod. Always curious if I could hear the difference I AB'ed them and wow, the AIFF sounded much better. The heavy bass was gone and the songs seemed more balanced overall. Much more pleasant to the ears. Had the same experience with many other songs. Ofcourse I don't know how they were compressed to mp3 but the difference was significant enough to start replacing the mp3s by lossless files.

Or even worse heard distortion in the mp3s and not in the aiff files of the same number. Things like that.
The mp3's sound louder than the aiff files like they had been given a certain boost and had noise on the background wich are gone when checking the aiff files.
Not louder like louder in just turning up the volume but a boost in some spectrums of the song.
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post #47 of 53
6/6/07 at 3:44pm
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Originally Posted by Contrastique View Post
Yep, I have. For example with a cd from Charlotte Gainsbourg. I downloaded them (mp3) from the internet first and the songs were somewhat bassheavy. Just too much. Then I bought the cd and putted it on my ipod. Always curious if I could hear the difference I AB'ed them and wow, the AIFF sounded much better. The heavy bass was gone and the songs seemed more balanced overall. Much more pleasant to the ears. Had the same experience with many other songs. Ofcourse I don't know how they were compressed to mp3 but the difference was significant enough to start replacing the mp3s by lossless files.

Or even worse heard distortion in the mp3s and not in the aiff files of the same number. Things like that.
The mp3's sound louder than the aiff files like they had been given a certain boost and had noise on the background wich are gone when checking the aiff files.
Not louder like louder in just turning up the volume but a boost in some spectrums of the song.
What encoder have you been using? Certainly not lame I guess?
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post #48 of 53
6/6/07 at 3:48pm
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Originally Posted by Contrastique View Post
I downloaded them (mp3) from the internet first and the songs were somewhat bassheavy. Just too much. Then I bought the cd and putted it on my ipod.
This is not a valid comparison, because you have no idea how those MP3s were encoded.
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post #49 of 53
6/6/07 at 4:00pm
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Originally Posted by Febs View Post
This is not a valid comparison, because you have no idea how those MP3s were encoded.
Yeah, I already mentioned that. I know, and I knew I was gonna be nailed on that one Bloody shoit! But for me I don't find it worth in trying to find a decent mp3 encoder. I like it the way it is. And sure, i have also heard mp3s of good qual where it was hard or even not to tell wether they have been compressed.
But I also imported my first cd's in mp3 and later on in aiff. (in Itunes) With aiff no noise in the background and an overall calmer sound. Can't pinpoint the exact difference now cause it was a long time ago I did that.
Does that sound trustworthy?? Mmmhhh, have to scratch my head on this one...
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post #50 of 53
6/6/07 at 5:13pm
You should really start thinking about using lame encoder. It will allow you to store way more music on a portable.

And I would love to see you ABX lame preset -v0 on your portable. I don't know whether there is a good extraction program for mac users though. Windows can use EAC, linux can use CDparanoia. (either way you might not really feel like re-ripping all of your music anyway)

But for as far as I know you don't have any Windows or Linux computers at home do you?

If I am going to the meet you should try ABXing some tracks on my laptop. I am not saying that you will not be able to do so, but I am absolutely sure that there is no obvious difference between the two.

Just something to think about.
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post #51 of 53
6/6/07 at 7:24pm
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Originally Posted by EnOYiN View Post
You should really start thinking about using lame encoder. It will allow you to store way more music on a portable.

And I would love to see you ABX lame preset -v0 on your portable. I don't know whether there is a good extraction program for mac users though. Windows can use EAC, linux can use CDparanoia. (either way you might not really feel like re-ripping all of your music anyway)

But for as far as I know you don't have any Windows or Linux computers at home do you?

If I am going to the meet you should try ABXing some tracks on my laptop. I am not saying that you will not be able to do so, but I am absolutely sure that there is no obvious difference between the two.

Just something to think about.
I would love to do some ab-ing though I am not sure I will convert again. It took me like 14 hrs to convert it all. At the moment everything fits on my ipod again so I am pleased for the moment. When they outgrow my ipod I will just buy a bigger one As I don't have many original cd's myself I am not gonna put a full lossless version on my external harddrive and a compressed one on my ipod. Yeah, I guess I am stubborn as well
I would love to ab the files when we are at riks though. Always in for tests and fun. And no, I just have apple at my place.

Thanx for your comment and help. Like to see you again at riks!
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post #52 of 53
6/8/07 at 11:31am
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Originally Posted by Jeff Guidry View Post
Perhaps you have the wrong forum. This is a headphones forum primarily, not a hi-fi forum. When using a portable (and very few portables can qualify as hi-fi), it is pointless in most cases to have a perfect copy of a CD, because the high resolution simply does not translate on most consumer grade portables. In the same vein, portables are often used in less than ideal listening circumstances, in cars, on trains, along city streets, where again the added resolution of lossless files is simply lost in the ambient noise.
Very good points. However, I suggest that if one can't tell the difference between lossless vs lossy, he/she is using substandard equipment. Admittedly, most people don't care, but it's a slippery slope toward acceptance of mediocrity (much like today's music industry).
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post #53 of 53
6/8/07 at 12:02pm
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Originally Posted by EnOYiN View Post
And I would love to see you ABX lame preset -v0 on your portable. I don't know whether there is a good extraction program for mac users though. Windows can use EAC, linux can use CDparanoia. (either way you might not really feel like re-ripping all of your music anyway)
Just for reference, the CD-ripping program 'Max' for OS X can be set to use CDparanoia and iTunes-LAME is a nice little app that will let you encode your files with LAME straight though iTunes and it works perfectly.

Just in case anyone reading wanted to know.
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