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post #61 of 95
4/21/07 at 3:00am


I just wanna confirm that those are the latest editions?
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post #62 of 95
4/21/07 at 3:38am
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I just wanna confirm that those are the latest editions?
Yea, they are.
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post #63 of 95
4/21/07 at 3:47am
I would imagine that any can that is as revealing as the DT880 will be very dependent on the upstream components (cables, amps, dacs, eq, etc).

To the people who find the highs a little too present, you will certainly want to look into sources that are VERY non fatiguing. The last thing you want is some lousey upsampling/oversampling going on which adds a harsh digital sound. If you are looking for a DAC upgrade for the DT880, I highly recommend the MHdt labs DAC's. All of them are NOS, and non fatiguing. That, plus some of them even use a tube in the buffer stage, so you can eaisly tweek the sound to your liking depending on which tube is used. I find they work great with the beyers, especially when paired with a nice amp.

And yea, you'll find that you'll only be able to tap the great soundstage of the beyers with good source components. It wasn't until I upgraded to a nice DAC over my computer's sound card that the soundstage opened up, and became more focused, etc.
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post #64 of 95
4/21/07 at 4:06am
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I would imagine that any can that is as revealing as the DT880 will be very dependent on the upstream components (cables, amps, dacs, eq, etc).

To the people who find the highs a little too present, you will certainly want to look into sources that are VERY non fatiguing. The last thing you want is some lousey upsampling/oversampling going on which adds a harsh digital sound. If you are looking for a DAC upgrade for the DT880, I highly recommend the MHdt labs DAC's. All of them are NOS, and non fatiguing. That, plus some of them even use a tube in the buffer stage, so you can eaisly tweek the sound to your liking depending on which tube is used. I find they work great with the beyers, especially when paired with a nice amp.

And yea, you'll find that you'll only be able to tap the great soundstage of the beyers with good source components. It wasn't until I upgraded to a nice DAC over my computer's sound card that the soundstage opened up, and became more focused, etc.
Very interesting post Towert7. First of all, can you please post a link to where I can find out more about this MHdt labs DAC?

Also, what do you think of pairing the dt880s with a quality soundcard such as the 1616M? The singal to noise ratio is 115db directly from the headphone jack on the card itself, and 120db on the external dock. Would you say the 1616M is as good as the MHdt labs DAC? If not, why not?

I will using f00bar200 with the DFX plugin by the way...
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post #65 of 95
4/21/07 at 4:56am
I have never used the 1616M, but my gut feeling is the MHdt Labs dacs are better (with their highend ones being significantly better). I forget who, but someone here even compared the cheapest dac they offer to being better than the 1212M.

You can buy the MHdt labs dacs on ebay: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...TRK:MEFS:MESOI

Here you can find the most info about the products when they are listed. They also have a website, but it's a little old with not much info:
http://www.geocities.com/mhdtlab/

Their constantine is a good budget dac, with their paradisea being just that much better. Both of these are NOS and non fatiguing, but still use SS design (though the paradisea also uses a tube buffer).
They also have their Renaissance, which is said to be the least digital sounding of all (most tube like).

Little review of the two main ones: http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazin...ratory_dac.htm (note, the paradisea has been updated and improved since then)
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post #66 of 95
4/21/07 at 5:23am
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I have never used the 1616M, but my gut feeling is the MHdt Labs dacs are better (with their highend ones being significantly better). I forget who, but someone here even compared the cheapest dac they offer to being better than the 1212M.

You can buy the MHdt labs dacs on ebay: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...TRK:MEFS:MESOI

Here you can find the most info about the products when they are listed. They also have a website, but it's a little old with not much info:
http://www.geocities.com/mhdtlab/

Their constantine is a good budget dac, with their paradisea being just that much better. Both of these are NOS and non fatiguing, but still use SS design (though the paradisea also uses a tube buffer).
They also have their Renaissance, which is said to be the least digital sounding of all (most tube like).

Little review of the two main ones: http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazin...ratory_dac.htm (note, the paradisea has been updated and improved since then)
Thanks I'll cheggem out
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post #67 of 95
4/21/07 at 4:08pm
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The sound stage is very good with these cans. I can pick and choose where the different players and singers are on the soundscape pretty easy.

I think it may very well be your MP3's themselves that you've tried so far. get some high bitrate or lossless files and try them. or perhaps a good CD player playing your favorite CD.
kind of late but w/e I have all my music in apple lossless but the soundstage still wasn't the best. i'm blaming it on my ipod as of now
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post #68 of 95
4/21/07 at 7:54pm
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Give the 880's a chance to open up (200-300 hours is the reccomended burn in time). I hope this thread has helped those among us that want to know more about the 880's. The new version just like what was pictured above.
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post #69 of 95
4/22/07 at 11:35pm
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added pic to first post in case anyone wants to add it to their collection of dt880 pictures
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post #70 of 95
4/23/07 at 12:20am
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added pic to first post in case anyone wants to add it to their collection of dt880 pictures
Wow that's one kick-butt shot man, thanks!
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post #71 of 95
4/23/07 at 1:12am
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took it with my camera phone believe it or not.
Sony 810i:

Also makes a NICE MP3 player on the go. I just need to get a nice pair of IEH's sooner or later for it
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post #72 of 95
4/23/07 at 3:38am

perpetual burn-in

nice shots by the way! i have had the dt880 for almost 2 years now. it has been loved as is for one and then one day, the cable seemed to long and i sent it to larry for a bit of a makeover so that it has the maxgold at 1.5 metres.

i am not sure if the sound changed so much as i was without it for one month, but as for burn in.... it just gets better. i count not in hours, but in years. after one year, it was amazing, but every month after, it gets better. when the heed came and i sold my old am, it took another step or several up. the supermicro too and the dt880 burn in well together.

like with making love, some things come with age.
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post #73 of 95
4/24/07 at 3:06am
Just out of curiousity is it possible to get the cable on the DT-880s upgraded from the default one to a cryo or silver cable? Is there a service that upgrades headphone cables for a fee? Or do you think such an idea is overkill for the DT-880s?

And I don't mean balanced I just mean an upgraded cable with the same 1/8th phono plug.
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post #74 of 95
4/24/07 at 3:10am
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As a matter of fact there is a service to recable the beyers:
http://www.headphile.com/page8.html
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post #75 of 95
4/28/07 at 7:05am
Beyers DT-880s IN DA HOUSE!

Only a few hours with 'em but LOVE 'em so far! Not QUITE as bright as the Sony 7506's but then again I've got over 5000 hours burned in on the Sonys LOL!

Listening to Songs from the Big Chair by Tears for Fears through my 1616M and OH MY GOD The Working Hour sounds RIDICULOUS!!!!!!!!!
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