Well, I've had these for about 2 months and decided I need something that isolates. In that time, I removed the old grills and installed mesh wire grills and switched the stock pads to HD414 pads, so now it looks like a Twinkie! lol, anyways, I want these gone. They sound much clearer now with the HD414 pads, and the new grills fix the fake sounding highs a considerable amount. They function perfectly and look rather nice, except I didn't cut perfectly round circles for the grills, but you don't see them unless you take off the pads! I will get pics up soon, and I don't have any refs here, so I am willing to ship first if you have good refs. PM me or post here if you have any questions! Thanks! 
