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post #16 of 29
When you mention JBL speakers, you are talking my language. My car speakers are JBL, and I would have got the E90's if the missus hadn't objected. I grew up with JBL from very young and quickly got to know their way of doing things. All their speakers still operate on those principles. There is a good reason I mention all this. JBL speakers need current. Lots of it. Feed them properly and the drives units are going to reward you with some very accurate signal levels and dynamics, not to mention bass extensions.
If you were in the UK I would have recommended a Linn LK2 or anything around that range.They produce double their power with each halving of the speaker load impedance. And there is the catch with the JBL drivers. Their load impedance can vary widely during cone excursions. So any amp you decide on should be of discrete components rather than a Power IC of the STK range to name just one. Decent sized caps like 6800uF or more are the minimum if you want the bass to last. Otherwise the bass will be found wanting. It's a common complaint leveled against JBL speakers by those with a less than adequate power dumping amp who then blame the speakers. And one reason why some JBL bargains can be had on eBay.
post #17 of 29
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Originally Posted by Herandu View Post
When you mention JBL speakers, you are talking my language. My car speakers are JBL, and I would have got the E90's if the missus hadn't objected. I grew up with JBL from very young and quickly got to know their way of doing things. All their speakers still operate on those principles. There is a good reason I mention all this. JBL speakers need current. Lots of it. Feed them properly and the drives units are going to reward you with some very accurate signal levels and dynamics, not to mention bass extensions.
If you were in the UK I would have recommended a Linn LK2 or anything around that range.They produce double their power with each halving of the speaker load impedance. And there is the catch with the JBL drivers. Their load impedance can vary widely during cone excursions. So any amp you decide on should be of discrete components rather than a Power IC of the STK range to name just one. Decent sized caps like 6800uF or more are the minimum if you want the bass to last. Otherwise the bass will be found wanting. It's a common complaint leveled against JBL speakers by those with a less than adequate power dumping amp who then blame the speakers. And one reason why some JBL bargains can be had on eBay.
I knew about JBLs back in the 70s when my pal from Liverpool showed me his dad's system. These E20s are pretty modest size wise. I do not expect miracles, they are small bookshelf speakers, and technically I share an office so I cannot crank them up too much anyway. However even driven by my $20Sony Minisystem they seem fairly respectable little beasts , and for $27 + shipping I am not complaining. Their RRP is ~ $170 but nobody pays that apart from one guy in Canada who hated them, the going rate seems to be about ~$80 - $120. Given their size I do not expect bowel-loosening bass, I just wanted something a little better than the supplied with speakers.

I will give the old Nikko Integrated amp (1970s) a try before sepnding any more money .
post #18 of 29
I haven't looked up any information on the JBL E20's, but if they are anything like the Infinity RS2's that I have in my office I would go for a nice vintage amp or receiver.

My first vintage was a Sansui 6060 (still got it) then I got a Marantz 1030. Both more the adequately drive my bookshelves.
post #19 of 29
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I haven't looked up any information on the JBL E20's, but if they are anything like the Infinity RS2's that I have in my office I would go for a nice vintage amp or receiver.

My first vintage was a Sansui 6060 (still got it) then I got a Marantz 1030. Both more the adequately drive my bookshelves.
I do have an old Nikko (1970s) amp. I used to have a Marantz 2226 but I sold it to Jahn.
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Originally Posted by SayNoToPistons View Post
that amp is overpriced, considering that you can get its big brother the 100W T-amp for as low as $77.
post #22 of 29

Use your Nikko receiver

Why don't you just use your Nikko receiver? I had one of those in college (a hand me down from my parents) and it rocked. Last week I set up an old Mitsubishi amp, 100 x 2, as a dedicated headphone amp. Those old components are great. They can be run all day & they don't even get warm.
post #23 of 29
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Why don't you just use your Nikko receiver? I had one of those in college (a hand me down from my parents) and it rocked. Last week I set up an old Mitsubishi amp, 100 x 2, as a dedicated headphone amp. Those old components are great. They can be run all day & they don't even get warm.

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I do have an old NIKKO TRM20 .....I will give it a shot first...Given that I will be driving 8 ohm speakers I was concerned that 12wpc would not be enough.....But I will give it a shot first.
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I will give the old Nikko Integrated amp (1970s) a try before sepnding any more money .

I will give the Nikko a bash first , promise !
post #24 of 29
Isnt the Trends just a souped up version of the T-amp?
I thought it had the same power with nicer parts and a case.
post #25 of 29
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At diykits.com.hk, they sell the Little Dot T-Amp. Mine is this one called the AMP5:

http://41hz.com/

Here is another one:
http://www.audiodigit.com/index.php?section=26
did you get it preassembled in the US? that second link is all in euros (i think)
post #26 of 29
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Why don't you just use your Nikko receiver? I had one of those in college (a hand me down from my parents) and it rocked. Last week I set up an old Mitsubishi amp, 100 x 2, as a dedicated headphone amp. Those old components are great. They can be run all day & they don't even get warm.
The Nikko has just been connected. It drives the speakers perfectly despite the woeful output from my portable sources. Loud enough even at 1 o'clock with low level Medieval vocal music on the iRiver which boasts a whopping 0.57V rms - with the Creative it gets loud at 11 o'clock.

Perfect solution.

Oh it sounds great as well.

And drives the 501s pretty well as well - nice bonus
post #27 of 29

I'm Glad its working out

It sounds like you are happy. Last week, I hooked up a 70's vintage Mitsubishi amp to my B&K preamp only for my headphones. It sounds wonderful it didn't cost me anything. I love it. Looks like its time to change my signature. Of course, now I want to upgrade my headphones!
post #28 of 29

ooops

Sorry, I don't read very carefully, and I'm a teacher.
post #29 of 29
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Originally Posted by cotdt View Post
that amp is overpriced, considering that you can get its big brother the 100W T-amp for as low as $77.
which amp are you talking about
have a link?
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