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What 20g-40g Flac players should I consider?

post #1 of 16
4/4/07 at 10:55am
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I know of the Iriver, Iaudio, and a Ipod can be Rockboxed. Any other I should look into? How many FLAC files could be stored on a 20g drive
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post #2 of 16
4/4/07 at 11:00am
The Toshiba Gigabeat F and X series players are reportedly very good with Rockbox. The F series are very reasonably priced as well.
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post #3 of 16
4/4/07 at 11:04am
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Originally Posted by Febs View Post
The Toshiba Gigabeat F and X series players are reportedly very good with Rockbox. The F series are very reasonably priced as well.

thanks. I'll look into that now. I have all my stuff in Flac file for my Slim Devices Squeezebox, so I really want something that'll play FLAC, instead of having to convert everything to mp3 when I want it on my portable.
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post #4 of 16
4/4/07 at 11:10am
The Cowon A2 plays FLAC files even without Rockbox (though Rockbox is most excellent), and the sound quality and battery life are marvelous. It's more of a video player than an audio player, though.
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post #5 of 16
4/4/07 at 11:12am
Check out the flac.sourceforge.net -> hardware website.
It list up lots of portable players, and other supported hardware.
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post #6 of 16
4/4/07 at 11:14am
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Thanks everyone. So, what's the average number of Flac file for 20g?
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post #7 of 16
4/4/07 at 11:22am
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Originally Posted by duff138 View Post
Thanks everyone. So, what's the average number of Flac file for 20g?
The average bitrate for FLAC files are somewhere in the 8-900kbps range.
You calculate the rest...

Edit: Ok, lets see.
We use a bitrate of 850kbps as an example:
850 (kilobits per second) / 8 (bits in a byte) = 106.25 (KiloByte per sec.)
106.25 (KiloByte per sec.) x 60 (seconds in a minute) = 6375 (KiloByte per minute)
6375 (KiloByte per minute) / 1024 (KiloByte in a MegaByte) = 6.22 MegaByte per minute

So the disk, which is 20GigaByte (usually 20,000,000,000 Byte).
20000000000 (Byte) / 1024 (byte in a KByte) / 1024 (KiloByte in a MegaByte) = 19073 MegaByte

19073 (MegaByte) / 6.22 (MegaByte per minute) = 3066 minutes, or 51 hours of lossless music.


Hope that answers your question.
...and that I got it right... he he
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post #8 of 16
4/4/07 at 12:31pm
It depends on what sort of music you listen to. My average bitrate is just over 600kbs. Varies between under 300kbs and over 1000kbs.
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post #9 of 16
4/4/07 at 1:05pm
Doesn't FLAC have an encoding level that influences "bitrate" and size?

I would check krmathis's list and go with the player that suited my needs best.
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post #10 of 16
4/4/07 at 1:19pm
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It depends on what sort of music you listen to.
Yes, the bitrate is really dependant on the complexity of the music.
I have lossless files with bitrates anywhere between 2kbps (yes, two kbps) and 1108kbps. Average about 800kbps
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post #11 of 16
4/4/07 at 1:29pm
Yes, since lossless codecs have variable bit rate, the Bit Rate can Vary greatly. If you encoded silence in a CBR format at 192kbps, it would always be that 192kbps. But if you encode silence in a VBR format, it can go down to 1 kbps.
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post #12 of 16
4/4/07 at 5:00pm
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Originally Posted by 3X0 View Post
Doesn't FLAC have an encoding level that influences "bitrate" and size?

I would check krmathis's list and go with the player that suited my needs best.
I dont know if it infulences "bitrate" but it does compress the overall file size. The disadvantage is that decoding it requires more processing power and it will have a small impact on battery life. Same applies to ogg vs mp3. ogg sounds better but is harder to decode. ogg v2 ive heard should fix this.
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post #13 of 16
4/4/07 at 8:05pm
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Originally Posted by duff138 View Post
Thanks everyone. So, what's the average number of Flac file for 20g?
Figure 3 CDs per GB, and you're pretty close.
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post #14 of 16
4/4/07 at 8:23pm
Actually FLAC is an asymmetric encoder: It sacrifices encoding speed so that decoding won't take longer for higher compression.

But I would just stick with the default. The disk savings for an entire album is only in the magnitude of a few megabytes.
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post #15 of 16
4/5/07 at 12:38am
Rio Karma?
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