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post #376 of 511
just bought this card (15 cdn) and installed it

a few quick questions:
is there any way to force the use of front (case) audio/mic without disabling the card's front l/r ports?
is there a way to for 2channel sounds into the rear l/r speakers (universally)

and when for things like winamp, you're usually given difference sound outs -> direct sound output, waveout output
which one is the best

and, it's really hard for me to balance the volume of everything; i tried my best to adjust the master volume and wave, but there are still some stuff that are way louder/softer then others
post #377 of 511
Is there a real "line out" ports in the AV710 (real as in the same audio L/R connections (unbalanced outputs) on the back of standalone CD/DVD players). If yes, which one is it? Is it the black one?

thank you very much for the help
post #378 of 511
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Originally Posted by jarthel View Post
Is there a real "line out" ports in the AV710 (real as in the same audio L/R connections (unbalanced outputs) on the back of standalone CD/DVD players). If yes, which one is it? Is it the black one?
The black output can be used as a line-out if you run it at full volume.
post #379 of 511
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Originally Posted by MCC View Post
The black output can be used as a line-out if you run it at full volume.
would it output bitperfect (bypass mixer) when using asio? thanks again
post #380 of 511
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would it output bitperfect (bypass mixer) when using asio? thanks again
I've never used ASIO- I use WASAPI instead, which is bitperfect. Maybe someone else can answer?

My educated guess, though, would be that it is indeed bitperfect.
post #381 of 511
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I've never used ASIO- I use WASAPI instead, which is bitperfect. Maybe someone else can answer?

My educated guess, though, would be that it is indeed bitperfect.
are you using foobar wasapi plugin? thanks again
post #382 of 511
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are you using foobar wasapi plugin? thanks again
Yes. using the latest version of Foobar with the WASAPI plugin for Windows Vista/7.

I saw a guide that recommended setting a playback buffer below 1000ms when using that plugin but I'm running higher than that both with the AV710 and my laptop. 4 seconds on the desktop to prevent skipping when I'm doing a lot with the hard disk/maxing out all 4 CPU cores and 10 seconds on the laptop because it has an accelerometer feature that parks the hard disk when I move the machine. I've had no problems with either setup.
post #383 of 511
how do I check if the output is bitperfect?

thanks again
post #384 of 511
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Originally Posted by oohms View Post
This method partly works in 64 bit vista.

Method:

Install the 5.40a vista 64 driver normally (running setup.exe)
Restart
Close the audio deck
Go to device manager, find the card, manually "update" to the 4.60b XP64 driver
Restart

In the audio deck:
2 channels (NOT high quality mode)
SPDIF: PCM only, select 44.1

Foobar: WASAPI (envy24 speakers)

Most music will work bit perfectly since 44.1khz is the most common bitrate, but this will NOT work with music of a different bitrate.

Im investigating other alternatives, including running the XP64 control panel, will keep you all posted
As a followup, this method is still the best method so far.

To make foobar behave with music of a different sample rate, i enable the resampler plugin set to 44100. This won't resample any 44100 songs, just anything which isnt. (So the player doesnt stop all the time)

Since CD music is 44100, any decent rips should also be.
post #385 of 511
Having troubles with Windows 7. Does this method work with it?
post #386 of 511
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Having troubles with Windows 7. Does this method work with it?
I have only briefly tried, but i didn't get it working properly. I think we need an updated installer for win 7 (or modify the vista installer so it installs properly), then the XP driver hack might still work. If i find anything ill post here again.
post #387 of 511
This method works in Windows 7. You just need to install the 5.40a drivers with compatibility mode.
post #388 of 511
Thread Starter 
The first post has been updated to include the Windows Vista 64-bit / Windows 7 workaround. Please let me know if something about it needs to be changed or reworded; I don't have either OS to test.
post #389 of 511
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Originally Posted by MBM85 View Post
This method works in Windows 7. You just need to install the 5.40a drivers with compatibility mode.
I did this, and it works
post #390 of 511
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Originally Posted by infinitesymphony View Post
Windows Vista 64-bit and Windows 7

1. Install the card into a free PCI slot on the motherboard.
2. Plug your amplification device (ex. speakers, receiver, etc.) into the black "Back Surr" jack on the back of the card next to the optical output. [Previous card revision: "Alt. Out"]
3. Download the Envy24 Audio Controller Family Driver version 5.40a linked here.
4. Use Windows XP compatibility mode to install it using Setup.exe (Application) in the Setup directory.
5. Restart the computer.
6. Open Device Manager (Windows key + Pause Break -> Hardware -> Device Manager), find the sound card, and manually update it to the 4.60b XP64 driver.
7. Restart the computer again.
8. Once the drivers are installed, open the audio control panel using its tray icon on the taskbar.
9. Enable 2CH (not High Quality mode) by clicking the appropriate circle.
10. In Foobar, select WASAPI (envy24 speakers) as the output device.
For step 4, vista64 can run it without setting compatibility mode, but for windows 7, compatibility mode needs to be set for vista SP2


Also this method should work with 32 bit vista/windows 7, the only difference being that you need the 32 bit XP driver (link) and the 32 bit vista driver (link)

(This hasn't been tested, but in theory should work the same)

edit:
You might also want to add this:
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Originally Posted by oohms View Post
To make foobar behave with music of a different sample rate, i enable the resampler plugin set to 44100. This won't resample any 44100 songs, just anything which isnt. (So the player doesnt stop all the time)

Since CD music is 44100, any decent rips should also be.
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