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post #31 of 50
Not much "Appreciation " going on here !!

Anyone got anything else to add?
post #32 of 50
I appreciate the DA10! I've owned two of them and loved it both times. Now I don't own one , but I now own an Opera.
post #33 of 50
I have been using the Lavry for about 7 months or so now. I've had a Benchmark Dac1 as well for about 3 months of those 7 months as a loaner from a friend. Comparing side by side, the Lavry was detailed yet musical. The Dac1 was extremely detailed, but I see that Dac1 as more of a studio machine. The details are all there and great for mastering. But the Lavry achieved those same details but gave out this sweetness factor missing from the analytical tool that the Benchmark is. My friend thought the same thing

Now, I think think the Benchmark Dac1 headphone amp had it over the Lavry but by a tiny bit. They are both good, but there was no way I was using JUST the dac headphone amp.

Thats where the Rudistor RP7 filled in for me using the HD-650. Tweak the sound a bit with the right cables and other tweaks and it hit the spot.

Lavry.....what a nice dac for the money. The next step up is quite a few thousand up (Reimyo, Audio Logic, Accustic Arts, dCs, Esoteric etc.) but that will happen some day.....for now, I really can't complain!
post #34 of 50
OH WOE....

...........OH Lavry....



...When shalts thou be in mine grubby hands??


..What's that,...Tuesday you say!!

........Tasty ..
post #35 of 50
Just got my first tube amp, a microZOTL, and my Lavry DA10 is feeding it. This is the most detailed while being smooth sound I have heard out of my equipment. I am sure that the lavry is party responsible for this sound. When they say musical I take it as extending the emotional content of the music and if this is so, thn the Lavry is revealed to be even more musical than before.
post #36 of 50
I have a DA10 and use it with the GS-1. I love the combo. The amp in the DA10 sounds really good to me, and it's got balanced out which is a nice plus.

The problem I have using the DA10 as an amp is the volume control. Though it's precise, it's digital and controlled by a toggle switch. I listen to a lot of older CDs with good dynamic range, so I'm constantly tweaking the volume. The DA10's volume control is not conducive to this behavior. The GS-1 with its nice knob, and in my case awesome DACT stepped attenuator makes all the difference in the world.

I wish the DAC had USB in and two outs. I would *love* to do some easier A/B testing with it, but that's a minor gripe.

The documentation that comes with the DAC is pretty lame IMO, though I give extra points because I can download the docs online. I had the DAC for months before I really understood the differences in the PLL settings, and that was because I did research online.

I used to use the Micro DAC which I loved, and when I first got the LA10 I couldn't hear a difference, and I was pretty disappointed. After listening for a while, then going back, the difference was obvious, though subtle. When I got the GS1, then tried PLL wide mode on the DAC (which apparently oversamples), I was blown away. This change in performance was *not* apparent with my other less detailed amps.

It would take a pretty dramatic change in performance for a similarly priced DAC for me to change. From what I've read, better performance is only available in higher-priced solutions. I see no need to upgrade at this time.

GAD
post #37 of 50
I have had Lavry DA-10 for 3 months now and it rocks. Compared to my previous Bel Canto Dac 2, it has better resolution and soundstaging which is what i was craving after speaker upgrade. The extra connectivity,functions and headphone out are a bonus. The old BC Canto Dac 2 has warmth a plenty (opposite to BM DAC1) and in an overly analytical system, it may fit in well. No regret with the Lavry DA-10 so far.
post #38 of 50
I don't have a lot to compare to but I love the Lavry as well. It was an obvious upgrade to both the Presonus CS and the Meier Opera DAC. I use it in wide mode, balanced with my Apache, and as GAD said, I'm consistently "blown away." I don't like the volume control either, but I can pretty much set it at 47 and control volume with the Apache.
post #39 of 50
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Originally Posted by newguru View Post
I'm personally wondering if Lavry will take Benchmarks lead and come out with a version of the DA10 that works with USB input. I would be highly interested in one of those for computer MP3 usage as it would be a convienient way to jam out with quality when you weren't interested in swapping CD's every 30 minutes.
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Anyone on the inside track with Lavry know if this is something in the works???
post #40 of 50
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Originally Posted by wakeride74 View Post
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Anyone on the inside track with Lavry know if this is something in the works???
I remember reading somewhere (maybe on gearslutz) on a thread where dan himself was presented with that idea and he thought it was good, but said the lavry black will not have this function , but maybe a product in the future.

I don't see why usb is necessary anyway, just buy a soundcard that outputs bit perfect like the juli@.
post #41 of 50
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Originally Posted by adanac061 View Post
I remember reading somewhere (maybe on gearslutz) on a thread where dan himself was presented with that idea and he thought it was good, but said the lavry black will not have this function , but maybe a product in the future.

I don't see why usb is necessary anyway, just buy a soundcard that outputs bit perfect like the juli@.
Or a HagUSB with its new XLR interface from www.hagtech.com .
post #42 of 50
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Originally Posted by slwiser View Post
Or a HagUSB with its new XLR interface from www.hagtech.com .
That looks easier for me So then it would just be XLR to RCA to connect to a amp... sounds easy enough.
post #43 of 50
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Originally Posted by wakeride74 View Post
That looks easier for me So then it would just be XLR to RCA to connect to a amp... sounds easy enough.
I use a set of cables that are XLR to RCA, an early version of these that I got of the FS forum here:


http://www.enigmaaudio.com/EA%20Webside.html

From the Hagusb you would use a single XLR to XLR female plug terminated cable into the Lavry AES/EBU input. All Lavry inputs convert to SPDIF if presented that signal. You can build you one for a fair price from here:http://www.redco.com/shopexd.asp?id=653

EDIT: I got my HagUSB-XLR and I found out that my cable is wrong. I needed a AES cable with one female and one male connector. I guess this is one cable that is certifiable directional.
post #44 of 50
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Originally Posted by slwiser View Post
I use a set of cables that are XLR to RCA, an early version of these that I got of the FS forum here:


http://www.enigmaaudio.com/EA%20Webside.html

From the Hagusb you would use a single XLR to XLR female plug terminated cable into the Lavry AES/EBU input. All Lavry inputs convert to SPDIF if presented that signal. You can build you one for a fair price from here:http://www.redco.com/shopexd.asp?id=653
Is there any benefit in doing that over the s/pdif out of the Hagusb w/ digital coax cable into the s/pdif input on the Lavry?
post #45 of 50
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Originally Posted by wakeride74 View Post
Is there any benefit in doing that over the s/pdif out of the Hagusb w/ digital coax cable into the s/pdif input on the Lavry?
Flexibility for me is the advantage.

Advantage to me is that it keeps my coaxial input open for another source that I may want to use like a universal player (optical) that I have and my M-Audio USB audiophile (coaxial). BTW, I have ordered the XLR Hagusb but have yet to get it. I sold my HagUSB coaxial to another forum member only to re-order this XLR unit. Another consideration is that the impedance on the XLR is 110 ohm and apparently on the RCA plug connection the impedance is not as exact as it is with the XLR. Not that you would tell any real difference if you keep you cables 1 m or shorter using the Lavry.

I will have three sources running into my Lavry this way. I have done some A/B stuff with my Oppo and computer files. I actually think the optical out of the Oppo is just a bit better than the M-Audio that I am using on my coaxial input now but not by much. I also want to check out how much difference I can tell in the HagUSB-XLR device and the others.

EDIT: If anyone goes the XLR method with the Lavry make sure that your cable has one female XLR and one male XLR.
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