Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Dedicated Source Components › Lavry DA10 Appreciation Thread
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Lavry DA10 Appreciation Thread - Page 2

post #16 of 50
The headphone out on the Lavry sounds a little bright to me.

I'm using the HD600 headphones, when you are using an external amp.

Is the tone changed to warm? Or does it still sound bright with better dynamics?
post #17 of 50
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by humanflyz View Post
I personally didn't think the headamp in the Lavry is anything special while I owned the Lavry for the 6 months that I owned it. My old Dynahi easily walked over the Lavry in terms of power and drive. The Lavry is acceptable for low-impedance, high-sensitivity headphones, but it just did not have enough to power to drive high-impedance like the HD650s or low-sensitivity cans like the K701s. Even using it balanced to amp a balanced HD650, I still preferred the Dynahi for the HD650s in single-ended mode. I think the Lavry's internal headamp is not on the same level as its performance as a DAC.

If this sounds like I'm bashing the Lavry's headamp, it really wasn't my intention. Like I said, the headamp is not bad, but it's not good enough for me to not get a dedicated headphone amp (in my opinion of course)

I can only tell you how it sounds to me. I can easily tell the difference between the amp on the dac1 and my millet hybrid, or the Lavry vs DAC1 vs the millet vs my GS1. I consider the GS1 to be an impressive SS amp with deep reserves of power to drive my HD650's. I cant say enough good things about the GS1 but in this case the Lavry's amp is so good that I can hardly tell the difference.

As far as driving high impeadance cans, I cant get past 37 on the volume dial with out it getting uncomfortable with the 650's. This amp exhibits the same soundstage and power that my GS1 has and the full rich energetic sound is just, well just dandy. The Lavry's amp is really good to my ears.
post #18 of 50
Can any other Lavry owners comment on this?

I noticed that the tone on certail songs is very shrill and piercing, it hurts my ears to listen to some songs.

And on some parts where the song has many instruments playing at once, that part of the song loses some of the dynamics and sounds compressed.

When I use an external amp., the dynamics are improved, but the amplifier changes the tone to a warmer color.
post #19 of 50
Been using a Lavry DA10 and balanced HD650s for months now, loving every second of it. Problem is, I haven't really used the built in headamp because of this. This will change soon when my recently purchased Alessandro MS-2i arrive. Will post some impressions then.
post #20 of 50
This looks like a killer DAC. Although I don't have one, it looks like a great one to keep my eye on.

It's like a pimped out DAC with the works. Nice specs.
post #21 of 50
Regarding my original comments:

Maybe I'm spoiled by having listened to the amps that fellow Berkeley Head-Fi'ers have, but after listening to amps like the Zana Deux, MPX SLAM SE, Dynamight, my old Dynahi--the Lavry's internal headphone amp (and I'm including the balanced output too) just doesn't sound that great to me. It's not bad by any stretch, but it's not particularly good either. It does the job decently, but it hardly lets me hear the real performance of the Lavry as a DAC-only device.

So to me, it doesn't make sense to get the Lavry just to use its own headphone amp, because that would be capping the performance of the Lavry's DAC section. I think of the Lavry as a DAC-first machine with the headamp thrown in, and I wouldn't use its own amp unless I had nothing else.
post #22 of 50
I'm personally wondering if Lavry will take Benchmarks lead and come out with a version of the DA10 that works with USB input. I would be highly interested in one of those for computer MP3 usage as it would be a convienient way to jam out with quality when you weren't interested in swapping CD's every 30 minutes.
post #23 of 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by humanflyz View Post
Regarding my original comments:

Maybe I'm spoiled by having listened to the amps that fellow Berkeley Head-Fi'ers have, but after listening to amps like the Zana Deux, MPX SLAM SE, Dynamight, my old Dynahi--the Lavry's internal headphone amp (and I'm including the balanced output too) just doesn't sound that great to me. It's not bad by any stretch, but it's not particularly good either. It does the job decently, but it hardly lets me hear the real performance of the Lavry as a DAC-only device.

So to me, it doesn't make sense to get the Lavry just to use its own headphone amp, because that would be capping the performance of the Lavry's DAC section. I think of the Lavry as a DAC-first machine with the headamp thrown in, and I wouldn't use its own amp unless I had nothing else.
Of course even my Melos improves on it. But there's only so much you can ask for to be put in such a small chasis (with the DAC section), I think that's what people are referring to when they say it's a good headphone amp.

I can confidently say the differences between a near maxed out M^3 and the DA10 are present, but small.
post #24 of 50
That's really interesting. I guess a DA10--->phones would be one of the best <$1000 setups you could have AND it would probably last you a good while before you feel the need to upgrade your source.
post #25 of 50
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by J-Pak View Post
Of course even my Melos improves on it. But there's only so much you can ask for to be put in such a small chasis (with the DAC section), I think that's what people are referring to when they say it's a good headphone amp.

I can confidently say the differences between a near maxed out M^3 and the DA10 are present, but small.
You are exactly right. If you are looking for one really great dac/amp combo, i think the DA10 cuts the least corners in SQ. The DAC1 and the Zhaou's of the world really compromise either the dac or amp portion.
post #26 of 50
Does anyone know what would be involved in changing a 110v/60hz DA10 into 230v/50hz? (I don't want to buy adapters)
post #27 of 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Knockturne View Post
Does anyone know what would be involved in changing a 110v/60hz DA10 into 230v/50hz? (I don't want to buy adapters)
nothing, since the da10 will run with 90-264V 47-63Hz AC
post #28 of 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by randyruiz View Post
......... If you are looking for one really great dac/amp combo, i think the DA10 cuts the least corners in SQ. The DAC1 and the Zhaou's of the world really compromise either the dac or amp portion.
Agree!

Have both DA10 and Zhaolu 2.5C, love them both!
post #29 of 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorder View Post
nothing, since the da10 will run with 90-264V 47-63Hz AC
Great. Can anyone tell me the size/dimensions and weight of it?
post #30 of 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Knockturne View Post
Great. Can anyone tell me the size/dimensions and weight of it?
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=189804
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Dedicated Source Components
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Dedicated Source Components › Lavry DA10 Appreciation Thread