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Sloppy ALO cables, or nitpicking? 56k beware.

post #1 of 86
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Everyone is familiar with the expensive and shiny looking ALO Jumbo Cyro dock right? Just look how beautiful it is right here in this image. You see the length, quality and quantity of braids/twists in the cable that makes it look so desirable?? It took me forever to save up, try to justify it's price with research, and convince myself to set down a hefty sum of $165 Plus $8.50 SH for this awsome cable.

(Borrowed from ALOaudio.com)

Now look at my cable that I received.



It took me long enough to convince myself to fork over my hard earned money for this. Is it me... or does this cable look weaker and less superior than the one in the photo? Not only is the number of twists are less, but it seems shorter. Note that I took into account that the cable in the picture is larger, but I did a comparison by holding it away and looking at it. Am I nitpicking or is this really... strange?

I know that the sound is all that matters and the sound that comes from this cable is quite warm and nice. But seriously, I didn't expect to receive something that looks weak and has gaps between the twists unlike the beautiful one advertised on his site.

Now that I said all that, it sounds like I am bashing ALO. I actually have no intention of doing so and I respect Ken a lot for what he has done for the head-fi community and how well the quality is for his headcrafted cables. It's just that the cable I received really looks different and stuff and being the perfectionist I am, it dissapoints me. What do you guys think? Did anyone receive anything like mine?
post #2 of 86
For a dock adapter where the parts are $6 plus the price of wire used I would expect it to be perfect for $160.

Did you contact the manufacturer? Being as these are hand made mistakes can happen. I would think if you brought it to his attention he would be more than happy to fix it.
post #3 of 86
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Originally Posted by naamanf View Post
For a dock adapter where the parts are $6 plus the price of wire used I would expect it to be perfect for $160.

Did you contact the manufacturer? Being as these are hand made mistakes can happen. I would think if you brought it to his attention he would be more than happy to fix it.
I agree with you on the perfectness of this but I haven't contacted Ken yet because I don't want it to sound like I am overreacting if this isn't such a huge problem.
post #4 of 86
Hey Nenso, glad you finally got your Jumbo Cryo. I too got mine a few weeks ago and I too was also kind of at first when I compared it with the pictures on the website. But those pictures were probably tweaked a little, and many others said what you and I have is the right color for cryo-treated copper when I read a review about cryo-treated copper products.

Don't worry about dude, just enjoy it!
post #5 of 86
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Hey Nenso, glad you finally got your Jumbo Cryo. I too got mine a few weeks ago and I too was also kind of at first when I compared it with the pictures on the website. But those pictures were probably tweaked a little, and many others said what you and I have is the right color for cryo-treated copper when I read a review about cryo-treated copper products.

Don't worry about dude, just enjoy it!
Hmm, I see.. could I take a look at your cable? Now you got me interested in how our cables compare with the site picture =\
post #6 of 86
The cable material itself looks fine, coloring just a tweaked photograph. My main concern is the braid count.

In the site picture you can count 3.5 "braids"/clusters thingies.

In your picture I only count 2~2.3 braids. This would be my concern if I were to raise one with ALO. There should be a higher braid count, resulting in a tighter cable arrangement.
post #7 of 86
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The cable material itself looks fine, coloring just a tweaked photograph. My main concern is the braid count.

In the site picture you can count 3.5 "braids"/clusters thingies.

In your picture I only count 2~2.3 braids. This would be my concern if I were to raise one with ALO. There should be a higher braid count, resulting in a tighter cable arrangement.
Guys, I'm not too concerned about the colours of the cable because lighting and cameras make a difference. What I'm really concerned about is the braids though.. thanks for pointing out how many there are.
post #8 of 86
I agree. The cable looks thinner and the twists look haphazardly done. It may sound great. I don't know. But in terms of looks, I could see how you would be disappointed. I think it is reasonable that a product look pretty much how it is represented, especially for that kind of money. Good camera work has to be accounted for, but they really don't look very close. I mean this isn't McDonalds, where it is understood that the pictures look nothing like the food. It may be worth contacting the vendor.

Good Luck.
post #9 of 86
IMHO, no need for pics of my Jumbo Cryo, Nenso; your last pic looks exactly like the one I have sitting on my desk next to me right now, except maybe a few shades darker, but I'm in the office with a kinda low-light source atm.
post #10 of 86
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IMHO, no need for pics of my Jumbo Cryo, Nenso; your last pic looks exactly like the one I have sitting on my desk next to me right now, except maybe a few shades darker, but I'm in the office with a kinda low-light source atm.
His main concern is not the colour (anymore), but the braiding, therefor the photo, in case you missed it
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His main concern is not the colour (anymore), but the braiding, therefor the photo, in case you missed it
What I said above your post was that mine looked exactly like his, and I commented on the lighting area.

I do not see what the confusion is when I stated first and foremost that his photo of his Jumbo Cryo looked just like the one that was next to me.

My main focus was how mine looked in general to his, so that includes the braiding job, in case you missed it.
post #12 of 86
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IMHO, no need for pics of my Jumbo Cryo, Nenso; your last pic looks exactly like the one I have sitting on my desk next to me right now, except maybe a few shades darker, but I'm in the office with a kinda low-light source atm.
This was, what let me believe you were talking about the colour only, it was just a bit unclear what you meant,


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I do not see what the confusion is when I stated first and foremost that his photo of his Jumbo Cryo looked just like the one that was next to me.
PS: relax, man
post #13 of 86
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Originally Posted by TheMarchingMule View Post
What I said above your post was that mine looked exactly like his, and I commented on the lighting area.

I do not see what the confusion is when I stated first and foremost that his photo of his Jumbo Cryo looked just like the one that was next to me.

My main focus was how mine looked in general to his, so that includes the braiding job, in case you missed it.
He's not asking whether your cable looks like his, but rather that his cable does not look like the one pictured on ALO. The reason why the cable looks different is that the wire wasn't braided as tight, it might be that Ken chose a tighter braid for his earlier cables since your cable is the newer one with the new heatshrink, but really you should just contact Ken if you're unsatisfied. From what I hear, he is truly a class act and a great guy to work with. I'm sure he'll be able to solve any problems you might have.
post #14 of 86
Hm yeah it does look like it was a rush-job now I think about it.

But it also reminds me of any fast-food ad. They always have perfect looking burgers and fries, nothing like the greasy piles of s**t you get when you buy it. As much as the cable's lack of braids is a turn-off, if the cable sounds good, isn't that what matters?

Explain that it took you a while to save for to Ken and ask him if it would be much trouble to get your cable looking like the one in the picture as that is one expensive piece you've paid for.
post #15 of 86
$165 is a chunk of change to throw down on a cable. While not having any dealings personally, Ken from ALO has such a great rep around here that you should be able to just contact him and sort it out with him.

The sound is paramount, but we all want our kit to look good.

Hope it work out.
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