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battlefield 2 + emu 0202

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
I was considering purchasing the E-MU 0202 usb sound card, but I wanted to know if it would be able to properly perform hardware rendering in battlefield 2. i know this card isn't really designed for gaming, but it's not on EA's rather extensive list of unsupported cards:

Altec Lansing ADA70 USB Speakers
AOpen AW-320
AOpen Phantom 3D AW-724
ASound Express II
Aureal Vortex
Aureal Vortex 2
Aztech A3D
Creative Labs SB 16 PCI
Creative Labs SB Audigy 2 NX
Creative Labs SB Audigy LS - (5.1)
Creative Labs SB Extigy
Creative Labs SB Live 24-bit
Creative Labs SB Live
Creative Labs SB Live PLATINUM
Creative Labs SB Live Value
Creative Labs SB Live X-GAMER
Creative Labs SB Live X-GAMER 5.1
Creative Labs SB MP3+ USB
Creative Labs SB PCI 128
Creative Labs SB PCI 512
Creative Labs SB PCI 64
Diamond Monster Sound II MX300
Diamond Monster Sound MX400
Diamond Sound Impact S90
Ensoniq Audio PCI PNP
ESS Canyon 3D
ESS Canyon 3D-2
ESS Maestro-2 3D Audio
Hercules DIGIFIRE 7.1
Hercules Game Theater XP 7.1
Hercules Gamesurround Fortissimo III 7.1
Hercules Gamesurround Muse Pocket USB
Hi-Live PCI
Hi-Live PCI SC4000
IOMagic Storm Surge
M-Audio Sonica
M-Audio Sonica Theater 7.1
M-Audio Transit USB
Microsoft Digital Sound System 80 USB
Nvidia nForce Audio
Nvidia nForce2 Audio
Philips Acoustic Edge
Realtek ALC861 audio
Siig Soundwave Elite 2000
Siig Soundwave Pro PCI
SoundMAX 3
SoundMAX Cadenza (Intel 845)
SoundMAX Cadenza (Intel 850)
Turtle Beach Montego A3D Xstream
Turtle Beach Montego II
Turtle Beach Montego II Quadzilla
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz
Yamaha Xwave-192
Yamaha Xwave-512
Zoltrix Nightingale Value

I recently purchased the sound blaster live! 24-bit external before discovering it to be incompatible, (because of lack of support for openAL? i read somewhere). also, if there are any other suggestions as to usb cards in the $100-150 range that are good for gaming, they'd be appreciated.
post #2 of 10
take a look at the supported video card list:
Radeon X700 (PCIe)
Radeon X600 (PCIe)
GeForce 6600 (PCIe)
GeForce PCX 5900 (PCIe)
GeForce 5800 Series (AGP)
ATI Radeon X800 XT Platinum Edition
ATI Radeon X800 PRO
ATI Radeon 9800 Series
ATI Radeon 9600 Series
ATI Radeon 9550 (RV350LX)
ATI Radeon 9500 / 9700 Series
ATI Radeon 8500 Series
ATI Radeon X300 Series
NVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra
NVidia GeForce 6800 GT
NVidia GeForce 6800
NVidia GeForce FX 5950 Series
NVidia GeForce FX 5900 Series
NVidia GeForce FX 5700 Series

as you can see that's not exactly a big list and nor does it have any newer cards. you should get sound out of a EMU 0202 completely fine I wouldn't worry about it.
post #3 of 10
Not only it won't have EAX effects, but the driver on my emu 0404 takes up around 15% of CPU time (that's on core duo 6300). Assuming 0202 driver performs similarly, you'll get a noticeable drop in FPS. I would just use onboard sound if I were you.
post #4 of 10
Thread Starter 
i don't care for EAX so that's a non-issue. also, using onboard integrated sound on a laptop with the "software" setting in bf2 results in a drop in FPS too, plus it provides crap sound. the m-audio audiophile USB is also in my price range, and it is AC-powered which should eliminate some of the performance hit. are there any opinions on the quality of this card?
post #5 of 10
I could be mistaken, but I believe hardware rendering is only done with the creative cards--I'm not even sure the newer audigys do it... You'll definitely be able to get sound out of it, but I doubt ultra high, which truthfully adds quite a bit to the game.

I'm really happy with my X-Fi card in BF2, that said--bf2 and web browsing is about all i do on this computer, so my needs are limited and the lack of game support for EAX doesn't bother me.
post #6 of 10
Originally Posted by oconnor1202 View Post
the m-audio audiophile USB is also in my price range, and it is AC-powered which should eliminate some of the performance hit
The performance hit has nothing to do with being AC-powered, but with the actual transmission of digital signal over USB. Any USB (or firewire) card will slow down your PC considerably. Try it if you wish--I guess your laptop is beefy enough, since you are running BF2 on it, and the slowdown may not be the end of the world.
post #7 of 10
BF2 should run just dandy, since it's mainly focused around your graphics processing power. But try a Source engine game and wow, it really goes to hell on maps with lots of props or players, those things require plenty of physics calculations and thus cpu power.
post #8 of 10
I played BF2 with SoundMAX just fine. Used headphones for the most part with no sound issue. I would have played it more but the loadtimes just kill. Now everyone has the newer BF2142.

I also play CSS so the source comment.. that is mostly because the programmers thing we care about all the trash on the ground and where it goes when a nade goes throwing it all over.. I don't. I remember one update was to make the leaves and branches sway in the wind.. I could care less since I never look at it when I'm on the hunt. If they were to get rid of a lot of the extra stuff lying around and tone down some of the graphics, it would be a lot better. Anyhoo.. enough of that rant.
post #9 of 10
I've played BF2142 fine with my old rig:

Asus A7N8X-X Rev 2.xx,
AMD XP 3200+,
1.5GB PC3200,
ATI Readon 9800 Pro 128mb,
SB Live! 5.1
XP Pro SP2
post #10 of 10
The answer is no, you won't be able to use hardware acceleration with an E-MU. At least, theoretically. I'm able to set the sound to maximum, with hardware acceleration, with EAX (!) in BF2 with my E-MU 1212M. However, I doubt that it's really doing anything. In other games, those options have been greyed-out.
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