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I am having an impossible time finding a site that I can just click and purchase a cap this evening instead of having to fax/e-mail/call.
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I am having an impossible time finding a site that I can just click and purchase a cap this evening instead of having to fax/e-mail/call.
You can get ELNA Silmics at Digikey. They are twice the size of the corresponding Blackgates, so they must be damn good!

Edit: Okay, not quite twice as big, but 1.5X as big. splaz sent me some and I'm putting them into my amp.
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Maybe a bit of a dumb question but before I do something stupid.. Shorting the 22uF caps is done by just making connections between the two pins of each of the 4 caps?
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Maybe a bit of a dumb question but before I do something stupid.. Shorting the 22uF caps is done by just making connections between the two pins of each of the 4 caps?
yeah, shorting them is the same as removing the capacitors and putting a wire across where the capacitors used to be. Except it's not necessary to remove the capacitors.
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Ok thanks.
One more question (hope its not getting annoying yet..)

I'm about to take a ride to the store that has blackgates, but it seems they have the nonpolar high end series only upto 470uF at 16v. Now I know that this should work just fine, but I plan to use the card with a 595 and (for now) without a dedicated amp. And since you mentioned earlier that higher capacity will give the output more drive, would I maybe be better off with a 2200uF regular blackgate instead of a 470uF one from the nonpolar series?
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Ok thanks.
One more question (hope its not getting annoying yet..)

I'm about to take a ride to the store that has blackgates, but it seems they have the nonpolar high end series only upto 470uF at 16v. Now I know that this should work just fine, but I plan to use the card with a 595 and (for now) without a dedicated amp. And since you mentioned earlier that higher capacity will give the output more drive, would I maybe be better off with a 2200uF regular blackgate instead of a 470uF one from the nonpolar series?
nonpolar =)
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Well it turns out the voltage is just a maximum.. so I got a Blackgate non-polar 1000uf 25v cap (Nx series). According to the ppl at the hifi store these put the regular series to shame. Granted, theyre more than 3x as expensive too. I paid 12.80 euro or so versus 4 euro for the regular one.

Another benefit of these is that they are smaller then the regular series. I forgot to put a reference item in the picture but its maybe 3cm tall and 1.5cm wide, pretty modest.

Another final question: are capacitors like these sensitive to mechanical shock? (ie when it falls on the ground can they get internal damage, or am I worrying over nothing? (yes it fell on a floor - I didnt do it!)
post #368 of 2194
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They should be fine after 1000 hours of burn in. The nonpolars take especially long to burn in, which is why I opted for the polars. Also, with the same capacitance, the nonpolars are twice as big. I decided I wanted as much capacitance as I could get, so I opted for the polars. But like you mentioned, many people who have used the nonpolars have been awed by them.
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I have an XtremeMusic board that I'm interested in hotrodding...

What online sites offer the Black Gates?

I've ordered from Digi-Key and Mouser, but I can't find them there.

Thanks!
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I have an XtremeMusic board that I'm interested in hotrodding...

What online sites offer the Black Gates?

I've ordered from Digi-Key and Mouser, but I can't find them there.

Thanks!
not to be rude, but refer to the OP and/or read through the thread. It has been mentioned numerous times where you can get Blackgates
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I have an XtremeMusic board that I'm interested in hotrodding...

What online sites offer the Black Gates?

I've ordered from Digi-Key and Mouser, but I can't find them there.

Thanks!
You can use the Elna Silmic from DigiKey, instead of the Blackgates. They are probably just as good as the standard Blackgates.

Edit: soloz2 beat me to it. Yes, they are mentioned in the first post.
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not to be rude, but refer to the OP and/or read through the thread. It has been mentioned numerous times where you can get Blackgates

Not to be rude, but please re-read my question...

I'm looking for these components to be orderable online. I could be mistaken, but Part Connecxion and Percy Audio look to be a mail order.


Cotdt, could you direct me to a part number of the Elna's? I'm a newb and wouldn't want to order the wrong part. I don't see any product called Silmic.

Thanks!
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Not to be rude, but please re-read my question...

I'm looking for these components to be orderable online. I could be mistaken, but Part Connecxion and Percy Audio look to be a mail order.


Cotdt, could you direct me to a part number of the Elna's? I'm a newb and wouldn't want to order the wrong part. I don't see any product called Silmic.

Thanks!
Digikey Part Number 604-1059-ND
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Digikey Part Number 604-1059-ND
Thanks very much for taking the time to look it up for me!
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Thanks very much for taking the time to look it up for me!
No problem. Everyone needs to hear this mod in its full glory, including you.
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