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post #241 of 2194
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Originally Posted by soloz2 View Post
if you are really concerned about the caps instead of shorting them just replace them with higher quality caps
Yeah mayby i do that. I can always add them later so i think iwill skip that part of the mod for now.
post #242 of 2194
WHY ARE YOU SHORTING THE CAPS ??
post #243 of 2194
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Originally Posted by ]|[ GorE View Post
WHY ARE YOU SHORTING THE CAPS ??
I answered this previously. Because me and others have done this and it improves the sound subjectively.
post #244 of 2194
well,should i short all those mentioned caps?because i havent modded yet my xfi.i am still waiting for the components.
post #245 of 2194
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Originally Posted by kirimaru View Post
well,should i short all those mentioned caps?because i havent modded yet my xfi.i am still waiting for the components.
yes
post #246 of 2194
When would the 3 surround opamps be used so I know if I gain anything from replacing them?
post #247 of 2194
The opamps are used when running the card in analog mode. If using digital the opamps have little to do with the sound quality. Does this answer your question.
On the question of caps -if your speaking of DC blocking caps, They are a protection device to prevent DC voltage from being fed into whatever your card is connected to BUT a capacitor in this circuit position degrades sound quality. Although they are in the circuit alot of the time they are indeed redundant and/or NOT needed.
post #248 of 2194
No, I'm am asking specifically about the 3 opamps used for surround sound. In the picture and in the tutorial there is the main opamp and there are the surround opamps.
post #249 of 2194
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Originally Posted by Wincet View Post
No, I'm am asking specifically about the 3 opamps used for surround sound. In the picture and in the tutorial there is the main opamp and there are the surround opamps.
If you're not going to use surround sound, then there is no benefit in replacing them. Was that your question?
post #250 of 2194
so...finally got my stuff in from parts connection

Got everything modded...after a while....

For some reason, I couldn't get the old legs out of 1 the holes for the cap. and for the other hole, tHe blackgates legs were very big, so I couldn't get it through... After(literally) ripping the pad off of the back of the card, i decided to play it safe and just solder it on the front, instead of through the holes. I'm getting more and more experienced with DIY, and have built several amps, but that X-FI is really not fun to solder with, it acts as a big heatsink. Just a word of caution to those unexperienced- be careful!

also, got the shielding paper in.

Haven't listened to it too much yet, but the difference is noticible. Not nearly as much as the op-amp switch, but it is more refined and "organic" as you'd say. I'd consider the cap/paper the last 10%. Then again, I think I've outsourced my current rig, now I'm ready to step up the amp and probably get another pair of cans too.
post #251 of 2194
about shorting the caps.
So far, i haven't done it yet,
so right now, we can confirm that it is safe to do so
here is my question... do we only short the four caps that was circled in the picture?

Because I put a total of 3 OPAMP onto the card, do i suppose to short the caps that is related to those opamp also?
post #252 of 2194
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Originally Posted by DSlayerZX View Post
about shorting the caps.
So far, i haven't done it yet,
so right now, we can confirm that it is safe to do so
here is my question... do we only short the four caps that was circled in the picture?

Because I put a total of 3 OPAMP onto the card, do i suppose to short the caps that is related to those opamp also?
Yeah...
post #253 of 2194
Alright, thanks

this may be off topic, but how's your spring break

I think when I got back.. I need to try to resolder my x-fi again.. another pain in the a@@ =_=

ps... as for yeah... do you mean short all the cap related to it.. or just the one circle in the pic
post #254 of 2194
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Alright, thanks

this may be off topic, but how's your spring break

I think when I got back.. I need to try to resolder my x-fi again.. another pain in the a@@ =_=

ps... as for yeah... do you mean short all the cap related to it.. or just the one circle in the pic
i stayed in san diego and studied the whole week. also been modding tube amps =)

yeah, short all of them. that's four for each opamp. Good thing the X-Fi is unbalanced. My M-Audio has balanced output and has more than double the number of opamps!
post #255 of 2194
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Originally Posted by cotdt View Post
i stayed in san diego and studied the whole week. also been modding tube amps =)

yeah, short all of them. that's four for each opamp. Good thing the X-Fi is unbalanced. My M-Audio has balanced output and has more than double the number of opamps!
As I am typing, I am at home eating green tea ice cream

anyway, A week with out my computer/headphone set up is a pain, I literally have no entertainment at all.

suddenly start to wonder, what M-Audio card did you got, just check the web, and they indeed are balance audiophile card. plus, how do they sound compare to x-fi
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