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post #16 of 41
3/6/07 at 8:27pm
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Originally Posted by raif View Post
hmm, took a look at the ultrasones. They are a little too pricey to not be wrapped in leather.( )

I am not sure why, but ultrasones always tend tickle my prejudice bone. The edition x's seem to be overpriced for the reactions they garner from their owners.

I am beginning to believe I might have to wait until the big head-fi meet next month to try out most of these phones.
raif, looks like you're local. if you'd like, we can meet up for a listening session...looks like you've got a couple cans i've been wanting to listen to, and i've got a pair of jvc hp-dx1000's you can demo
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post #17 of 41
3/6/07 at 8:35pm
Hey, sorry to butt in... But if there's a Bay Area meet I'm all for it as well

(well, the national meet will be in San Jose, but sometimes one gets impatient...)
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post #18 of 41
3/6/07 at 9:07pm
Great price on the hp-dx1000. I has been a while since I check pricing there.

769$ for hp-dx1000 new
729$ for AT-W5000 new
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post #19 of 41
3/6/07 at 11:03pm
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Believe it or not, I was really hoping someone would come along and say that. I feel bad, but I love AT woodies, always wanted one since back when the 2002's were still in production.

I did have some time with the phone, but I couldn't remember the soundstage. I do know that most AT tend to sound similar to me, and many are stating that the 950ltd have a really small soundstage.
I wish the W2002's sounded better. Then I would consider getting one. IMO, it's the best looking of the AT woodies. After seeing the pics from Elephas' thread, I started looking around for one. But then I started reading some of the reviews and for the most part, they weren't too praising. Hope they come out with another woodie with the W2002 looks and the L3000 sound.
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post #20 of 41
3/7/07 at 12:14am
I highly recommend K340s, but only if you're willing to get them modded and have an amp that can drive them well. They come up for sale fairly regularly around here, both modded and stock.
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post #21 of 41
3/7/07 at 2:31pm
The W5000 has a spacious and nice-sized soundstage when driven by the AT-HA5000. With other amps such as the RSA Raptor or Tomahawk it is more closed-in and soundstage is smaller.

I think the W5000 has a bigger soundstage than the AD2000 and RS-1, and only a bit smaller than the HD650. Its sense of air, space and notes separation is excellent. Its superior imaging and clarity helps with the soundstage illusion. It doesn't really sound like a closed headphone at all, unlike the L3000, W2002 or A950LTD.

I haven't heard other closed headphones such as the R10, CD3000, JVC, Edition 9 and new Denon. Hopefully someone could compare some of these headphones vs. the W5000+HA5000 combo, maybe at the upcoming National Meet.
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post #22 of 41
3/7/07 at 4:15pm
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Originally Posted by jay spec View Post
raif, looks like you're local. if you'd like, we can meet up for a listening session...looks like you've got a couple cans i've been wanting to listen to, and i've got a pair of jvc hp-dx1000's you can demo
Hmm I might have to take you up on that. Would you mind describing your interpretation of the jvc a bit?
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post #23 of 41
3/7/07 at 6:13pm
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Hmm I might have to take you up on that. Would you mind describing your interpretation of the jvc a bit?
i'm not one to put much into descriptive reviews seeing as those seem to get misinterpreted more often than not. i'd prefer for you to listen yourself, and if you'd like..you can write up a review after that

what i will tell you is that the dx1000's are currently the cans that get most of my listening time. the hd650's held this spot previously, despite the two sounding significantly different from one another
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post #24 of 41
3/7/07 at 6:19pm
Dont suppose you could give more information on a comparison between the DX-1K and the HD650?

The JVC looks to be just about the comfiest thing ever.
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post #25 of 41
3/7/07 at 6:19pm
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Originally Posted by jay spec View Post
raif, looks like you're local. if you'd like, we can meet up for a listening session...looks like you've got a couple cans i've been wanting to listen to, and i've got a pair of jvc hp-dx1000's you can demo
I'd love to listen to the Dx1000 too!! I have the Sony SA5000 with 650 stock cable you can try out..& you can try out my Cardas 650 cable if you don't already have one.. What part of the bay do you residein?
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post #26 of 41
3/7/07 at 6:58pm
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Dont suppose you could give more information on a comparison between the DX-1K and the HD650?

The JVC looks to be just about the comfiest thing ever.
the dx1000's are indeed one of the comfiest cans i've had the pleasure of placing on my head. the hd650 pads felt cheap in comparison

the senn hd650's have a dip in the upper midrange...i suppose this is what ppl are referring to when they mention the "sennheiser veil". the jvc's do not exhibit this midrange dip. between the two, the jvc has more prominent bass.


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Originally Posted by kool bubba ice View Post
I'd love to listen to the Dx1000 too!! I have the Sony SA5000 with 650 stock cable you can try out..& you can try out my Cardas 650 cable if you don't already have one.. What part of the bay do you residein?
i'm over in SF, but am willing to drive a bit for a mini-meet. if someone would like to set something up on a saturday afternoon (my only free day of the week), i'd be happy to attend
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post #27 of 41
3/9/07 at 9:40am
So far I have primarily driven my W5000 using an M^3 with AD8065 opamps on L/R/G. Good, but not perfect. Sound stage width was relatively compressed and flat at the edges, and imaging suffered. I was worried that this was the W5000--but it's not. ThreEchelon provided me with a pair of OPA637 for L/R and sound stage/imaging are vastly improved (there are lots of other differences, most of them good). I don't think imaging is up to modded K340 levels*, but sound stage is pretty fantastic--this certainly doesn't sound like a closed pair of cans.

If the W5000 isn't the best closed headphones in production would someone kindly point me towards what is so I can buy it?

Still waiting on a D5000 review as well...

*Edit: Actually W5000 imaging is superbly immersive and effortless, probably owing to its size and the consequent boost in headstage that comes with wrapping the ears in so much space. The K340 has less space for ears, and the sound is generally more of a projection into the ear. K340 imaging sounds more lifelike, but you sometimes have to close your eyes or turn down the lights and go there. The W5000 imaging is more present.

Edit 2: I haven't tried the K340 with the new opamps, so the K340 could see a dramatic boost in sound stage too.
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post #28 of 41
3/9/07 at 10:15am
I never had the opportunity to hear the W5000 with a SS amp in the balanced configuration. Can anyone comment?
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post #29 of 41
3/9/07 at 1:35pm
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I seem to be getting sold rather well on the w5000. I think i will probably hold out to see what's up with the new denon, then jump into the w5000.

as for the mini-meet we are throwing around, unfortunately, saturday is like the one day I am not free. Doesn't it always seem to turn out that way? Anyways, thanks for the offer though!
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post #30 of 41
3/9/07 at 2:49pm
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Dont suppose you could give more information on a comparison between the DX-1K and the HD650?

The JVC looks to be just about the comfiest thing ever.
By far. Duggeh, what is your avatar?
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